…mis births from the second, people who have not fully matured in whom there are adhesions and hold backs, what Freud calls fixations. The properly functioning mythology brings creatures to maturity within this context, lifts them behind beyond that and then…

…drawing up and it's the coach of the prince's land. Well how come that this prince had become a frog? Anyone who's read his Freud knows why. He had been bewitched by a witch who, as we know, is always mother. This is what had thrown him out down…

…of illusion that obscures us from the truth of our own which is no being, is exactly a function of fears and desires. Freud tells us this, exactly the same thing, except that he doesn't push through all the way to the buddha illumination all he does…

…chakras. This I would say. I may be wrong. Here is the level at which the jungian psychology aims. I would associate Freud with the second chakra, adlerian psychology with the third chakra and the jungian with the fourth. This also, I believe, is the…

…main problem for Jung. Well now let me just very briefly say something about this dream and mythology. When one reads Freud, One has a one's reading of an unconscious that is based on conscious experiences which have become unconscious. The experiences of…

…rejected, repressed, are the principal concern of the freudian analysis. These are biographical, the mythology I mean the dream imagery that Freud is interpreting and his mode of and also when he turns to history for example in those two great works, the…

…the time we are little youngsters have been asked to criticize, to decide to develop this function. Now in the orient, ego, what Freud calls the reality function, is not distinguished from id. I and mine is what is associated with ego in the orient, and…

…the most useful of the modern depth psychology readings for the interpretation of mythology. The jungian psychology takes off from Freud and Adler. As Jung points out in his two essays in individual psychology, it's quite possible to interpret neurotic…

…I have to go through the elementary introduction to freudian psychoanalysis for a group like this. Basically one can say that for Freud there is the immediate crisis after birth you might say, of a wish or an impulse and the prohibition brought against…

…that tension every time that wish recurs from the unconscious, it carries with it the prohibition which has been, as Freud says, introjected. It has become an operating factor in the psychological structure of this individual. Now such an electric charge…

…it were, a sacred object, radiant in a certain way and the person's relationship to it is ambivalent and in tension. For Freud these wishes are largely related to the parent. The parental images become the agents of the social system. One prohibition after…

…builds up what is called by religious people the conscience, and conscience is simply the introjected social taboo system. Then Freud speaks of three great stages in the genetic development of the individual psyche: the first that of infancy, and the…

…took over. And when I was a student then a graduate student in Germany back in 28 29, I discovered for myself the works of Freud and Jung and this opened up a psychological dimension in a field that I had no knowledge of in those terms and suddenly I…

…not known very well in the United States at that time. I think there were two small translations of works that he had published. Freud was well known, only I had not been a student of psychology and didn't know Freud. So both of these men began to…

…small translations of works that he had published. Freud was well known, only I had not been a student of psychology and didn't know Freud. So both of these men began to talk to me, you might say, and inform me about one aspect of my own subject. I…

…a thousand faces which was back in the 40s, middle and early 40s, they were a sort of equal in my thinking and Freud served in one context and Jung in another aspect of my interpretation of myths. But then the years following that book, Jung became…

…longer you live, the more Jung can say to you. And I go back to him and things that I've read are saying New, new things. Freud never says a new thing to me anymore. It always comes out you know oedipus and a few things like that and I got bored…

…help to make this. The individual must move from dependency to authority, must move from childhood to adulthood, and that's the crisis that Freud is dealing with in his psychoanalysis all the time. A person who is still a child to the father or to the…

…we have to authority in our society. We know it, that's what it is. Well add to that the combination of Marx and Freud and you have dynamite for young people because Marx tells you about the exploiter and the exploited and then Freud tells you father's…

…of Marx and Freud and you have dynamite for young people because Marx tells you about the exploiter and the exploited and then Freud tells you father's the exploiter, and then you unite father with the nation and you get what we had in the 60s. But…

…took over. And when I was a student then a graduate student in Germany back in 28 29, I discovered for myself the works of Freud and Jung and this opened up a psychological dimension in a field that I had no knowledge of in those terms and suddenly I…

…very much very well in the United States at that time I think there were two small translations of works that he had published. Freud was well known only I had not been a student of psychology and didn't know Freud. So both of these men began to talk…

…two small translations of works that he had published. Freud was well known only I had not been a student of psychology and didn't know Freud. So both of these men began to talk to me you might say, and inform me about one aspect of my own subject. I…

…with a thousand faces. Which is back in the 40s, middle and early 40s. They were sort of equal in my thinking and Freud served in one context and Jung in another aspect of my interpretation of myths. But then the years following that book, Jung became…

…longer you live, the more Jung can say to you and I go back to him and things that I've read are saying New, new things. Freud never says a new thing to me any anymore. It always comes out you know oedipus and a few things like that and I get…

…I think that's likely. That's maybe why Grof is so connected with them too. Oh definitely, and I think the psychology of Freud tends more to relate to what Jung calls the personal unconscious. You know when you break past that into realms that cannot…

…insofar as the mythic forms are alive today it's a study of the present, and this is the sense of the work of Freud and Jung. They found that in the psyche, in the individual dreams, there were mythic motifs and that those represented the dynamics of…

…of ourselves? Well this is a complicated subject. Primarily, the shadow is what might be called the freudian unconscious. For Freud and the freudian point of view, the unconscious is really composed of traumatic recollections that are no longer recollected.…

…we have to authority in our society. I know it, that's what it is. Well add to that the combination of Marx and Freud and you have dynamite for young people because Marx tells you about the exploiter and the exploited, and then Freud tells you father's…

…of Marx and Freud and you have dynamite for young people because Marx tells you about the exploiter and the exploited, and then Freud tells you father's the exploiter and then you unite father with the nation and you get what we had in the 60s it's…

…see how all these things were put together. In Germany I discovered Mann who was also working on these things. I've discovered Freud and Jung but I went there really to study philology, the history of language, and this brought me to sanskrit. I started…

…of the dynamics of the psyche. Whatever may be thought of the sometimes contradictory interpretations of specific cases and problems, Freud, Jung and their followers have demonstrated irrefutably that the logic, the heroes and the deeds of myth survive into…

…are the things that are linked to the great heritage of mythology. How does he get in the person? When one reads Freud, One has a one's reading of an unconscious that is based on conscious experiences which have become unconscious, the experiences of…

…have been forgotten, rejected, repressed are the principal concern of the freudian analysis. These are biographical. The dream imagery that Freud is interpreting and his mode of interpretation has to do with the biography of the individual. Now in Jung on…

…revelations that have emerged from the mental clinic. The writings of the psychoanalysts are indispensable to the student of mythology. Freud, Jung and their followers have demonstrated irrefutably that the logic, the heroes and the deeds of myth survive into…

…reveals an unsuspected world and the individual is drawn into a relationship with forces that are not rightly understood. As Freud has shown, blunders are not the merest chance. They are the result of suppressed desires and conflicts. They are ripples…

…coach drawing up and it's the coach of the prince's land. Well how come that this prince had become a frog? Anyone who's read his Freud knows why. He had been bewitched by a witch who, as we know is always mother. This is what had thrown him out down…

…himself into the lord of dharma, the lord of duty. These are the three things by which we are bound: desire, as Freud tells us. Fear and aggression, as Adler and Nietzsche tell us. Duty, as our clergymen and social scientists tell us. These are…

…more and more understood and important, largely through the work of the great psychiatrists, and I need name only two, namely Freud and Jung. I might say a word about the differences between these two psychologies with respect to mythology. For both of…

…dreams will be rather bizarre and odd. Those, however are the signals of our own myth. Now it's famous the formula of Freud by now. Freud sees the contents of the unconscious to summarize it very briefly as consisting of contents derived from infantile…

…bizarre and odd. Those, however are the signals of our own myth. Now it's famous the formula of Freud by now. Freud sees the contents of the unconscious to summarize it very briefly as consisting of contents derived from infantile shock and experience.…

…figures of your childhood outside in the universe to whom, again you feel the attitude of submission. The functions of mythology for Freud are projections of functions of what I would call the family romance of father and mother and infant, and he tends…

…of man involves, of course this wonderful thing up here, the great brain of the human species, so that it is not all, as Freud suggests, located at the lower end of the spinal column. The upper end has its own impulses and worth, and these are not…

…sanatorium in zurich. He found these people living in a mythological world and during the course of his brief relationship to Freud, which followed his gaining of his doctor's degree and everything else, he gained a great insight from Freud into what he…

…brief relationship to Freud, which followed his gaining of his doctor's degree and everything else, he gained a great insight from Freud into what he called the mechanism of repression, what causes people to repress memories. But he did not gain from Freud…

…Freud into what he called the mechanism of repression, what causes people to repress memories. But he did not gain from Freud the kind of insight into the sources of mythological forms that he was gaining from his patients in the bergholzli sanatorium,…

…gaining from his patients in the bergholzli sanatorium, and the book that he wrote in 1911 and 12, which separated him from Freud or rather separated Freud from him because Freud would not allow anybody to have a thought that differed from his own was…

…in the bergholzli sanatorium, and the book that he wrote in 1911 and 12, which separated him from Freud or rather separated Freud from him because Freud would not allow anybody to have a thought that differed from his own was a work called wandern…

…situation: who will help me? He is in a dependent relationship to the parents. The parental images are on him all the time. Freud has made a great point of this. Then at a certain point in life, this little dependent creature is expected to become a…

…been picked for him and he's now a responsible citizen. So the first great crisis and this is one in which Freud is particularly interested is that of the transition from infancy and its dependency attitude to responsibility in terms of the requirements…

…of our discussion in relation to some of this matter in other societies. Now to give in very summary form the thoughts of Freud in this matter so that we'll have a basis for the discussion of individual and society in the later context. First, the Freud…

…Freud in this matter so that we'll have a basis for the discussion of individual and society in the later context. First, the Freud Psychology is based on an elementary nuclear stress idea, namely that there is a will a desire, an I want that is…

…absolute. The thing that the child cannot, cannot, cannot have just like that all the time is pressed down into the unconscious as Freud says, a good parent when it doesn't want his child to think about this gives it something else to think about. Well…

…goes too so that in the unconscious there is a dynamic energy unit that is both a positive and a negative. This Freud calls the ambivalence. It is in the psyche. This business of suppressing your wish and suppressing along with it a social prohibition…

…crisis in his own life. It was around the years 1911 12 when he for some six years had been the colleague of Freud. He was president of the international psychoanalytic association which Freud had founded, and as soon as Freud met Jung, he required his…

…12 when he for some six years had been the colleague of Freud. He was president of the international psychoanalytic association which Freud had founded, and as soon as Freud met Jung, he required his group to elect Jung as the president of the group.…

…had been the colleague of Freud. He was president of the international psychoanalytic association which Freud had founded, and as soon as Freud met Jung, he required his group to elect Jung as the president of the group. What you keep reading from freudian…

…his group to elect Jung as the president of the group. What you keep reading from freudian hands that Jung was a disciple of Freud is absolutely false. He was a disciple of bläuler and of Jeannet in Paris and Freud was his colleague. In 1911 12, Jung…

…hands that Jung was a disciple of Freud is absolutely false. He was a disciple of bläuler and of Jeannet in Paris and Freud was his colleague. In 1911 12, Jung was working on a book which has been translated under the title of symptoms of…

…our value system structure has been greatly revised. Our mythology has not been revised that interestingly enough, with Darwin and Freud and Einstein and so on that it's rather difficult for a people's mythology to keep up with such revolutionary changes…

…important point. Dream and myth are of the same logic. This is a point that we're getting in our psychiatric uh works now from Freud, Jung and uh Erich Fromm and so forth. Now since the subject and object seem to be separate but are not separate in a…

…you are to be born now as a male, you will love your mother, find yourself loving your mother and hating your father. Did Freud teach us anything? And if you are going to be born as a female, you will find yourself hating your potential mother and…

…infant. But then, following this and in the course of it, there come great feelings of uniting with the universe, what Freud calls the oceanic experience. Feelings also of new knowledge. Things that had been mysterious to you are fully understood. Ineffable…

…most successfully with this second problem has been Jung. This is in fact the concern of Jung. Now there are papers that Freud wrote to the profession, to young psychiatrists in which he states: don't even bother with anybody over the age of 35, there's…

…theban system he calls the deity aton, a t o n which actually is the reanimation of a much earlier notion. But it was Freud who had the suggestion in his moses and monotheism that moses had been an officer in the Court of Akhenaten, that it was…

…life. This is the kind of stuff that we have in these heroic mythologies. Now we come to ramses Ii. If moses was, as Freud suggests a member of the Court of Akhenaten, then the exodus must have taken place around 1358. This is the death of Akhenaten.…

…this heart and this is not a heart of lust, but a heart that knows how to respond to an image. This is what Freud calls wiervism, that's the rescue, delight in the manifestation of the divine in a person. And then one is completely taken by this and…

…everything into oneself. We have an adlerian psychology at this point a total transformation. Now one of the problems in the early Freud camp was already recognized here: Freud giving sex as the prime energy and Adler giving the will to power as the prime…

…an adlerian psychology at this point a total transformation. Now one of the problems in the early Freud camp was already recognized here: Freud giving sex as the prime energy and Adler giving the will to power as the prime energy and for some people it…

…and they come up in disturbed dreams and nightmares and so forth which are dealt with by the psychiatrist. It was with Freud and Jung and Adler that it was realized and particularly through Jung that the figures of dream are really figures of personal…

…space. His metaphor as myth and as religion is the biggie. Author and psychologist, Dr James Hillman. No one in our century not Freud, not Jung, not Thomas Mann or Levi Strauss has so brought the mythical sense of the world and its eternal figures back…

…myth and art. ♪♪. I thought it would be a good idea to begin the talk today by actually discussing the difference between Freud and Jung and what has happened. The basic difference as I see it, is indicated in Jung's Collective unconscious, his idea of…

…is. So essentially the freudian unconscious is a biographical unconscious. But what I'm trying to bring out here is that when Freud then turns from individual psychology to symbolism of the races of mankind, he takes a historical, not a biological base.…

…answers but no one else was giving any answers in relation to this matter of the psychological ground for the elementary idea. Freud was dealing with what might be called the ethnic idea system. Just as in his psychology the personal unconscious is what…

…and how do you do it? After he had written buddenbrooks, this book was ready for the press by 1900, and that is before Freud had published the interpretation of dreams. So you'll see when you read it that Mann is full of the same dynamic that the…

…learned and how all of it, from the novels of Mann and Joyce to the Hindu Scripture to the psychology of Freud and Jung, informed his understanding of the arthurian legends that he was studying. His horrified Columbia University advisors refused to allow…

…not an analyst. He was the object of scientific inquiry not the subject. Now the paper that was published of this talk is called Freud and the future. As I say it had almost nothing to do with Freud. Mann begins by saying that the real achievement of…

…paper that was published of this talk is called Freud and the future. As I say it had almost nothing to do with Freud. Mann begins by saying that the real achievement of Freud was that he had, through his own researches reproduced in medical terms all…

…and the future. As I say it had almost nothing to do with Freud. Mann begins by saying that the real achievement of Freud was that he had, through his own researches reproduced in medical terms all the findings of the German Romantic philosophers of the…

…through his own researches reproduced in medical terms all the findings of the German Romantic philosophers of the 19th century, even though Freud had never read any of these. He did not know Schopenhauer, says Mann, he did not know Nietzsche, he did not…

…he said now if you will pardon me for talking about myself, I will show that in my works long before I heard of Freud I was already working in this mode. And he then spoke of his early short story Der Kleine Herr Friedmann, little Mr Friedmann. And…

…this heart and this is not a heart of lust, but a heart that knows how to respond to an image. This is what Freud calls voyeurism. That's the rescue, delight in the manifestation of the divine in a person. And then one is completely taken by this and…

…everything into oneself. We have an adlerian psychology at this point a total transformation. Now one of the problems in the early Freud camp was already recognized here: Freud giving sex as the prime energy and Adler giving the will to power as the prime…

…an adlerian psychology at this point a total transformation. Now one of the problems in the early Freud camp was already recognized here: Freud giving sex as the prime energy and Adler giving the will to power as the prime energy and for some people it…

…theban system, he calls the deity aton, a t o n which actually is the reanimation of a much earlier notion. But it was Freud who had the suggestion in his moses and monotheism that moses had been an officer in the court of ignaten, that it was…

…life. This is the kind of stuff that we have in these heroic mythologies. Now we come to ramses Ii. If moses was, as Freud suggests, a member of the court of ignaten, then the exodus must have taken place around 1358. This is the death of ignaten.…

…experiences, repressed shocks that the infant first the infant and then later the growing child, has experienced. Jung's first interest in Freud was in Freud's Theory of the mechanism of repression. What is it in the psyche that so puts these things out…

…orders of dream. There'll be one order of symbols that you can interpret by personal associations, the free association technique that Freud uses. But there will be then other images in your dreams at certain critical moments in your life that you cannot…

…power in the abyss of the unconscious. And then shadow, the threat aspect pouncing at her. That's really right out of Freud. Now here's the story: when the ego becomes uncertain about its moral position, everything in the psyche begins to move. This…

…decision. This is an 18th century painter, Fuseli, an Italian painter and it's called the nightmare. This is a whole century before Freud knew him. Artists knew all these things long ago. It's wonderful to read Thomas Mann's Paper on Freud and the future.…

…is a whole century before Freud knew him. Artists knew all these things long ago. It's wonderful to read Thomas Mann's Paper on Freud and the future. Somebody invited Thomas Mann to give the talk at the party for Freud's 80th birthday. Well who in his…