Originally aired as Salon #418 of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. "Every drug problem can usually be traced to a previous drug problem." "I think drugs are much safer than gurus." "I've never been absolutely certain that psychedelics have anything whatsoever to do with the spiritual quest."

"Basically, for me the psychedelic experience was the path to revelation. It actually worked on somebody who thought nothing would work." "What I like to talk about, and what I have very little competition in terms of talking about, is the content"

"Every drug problem can usually be traced to a previous drug problem." "I think drugs are much safer than gurus." "I've never been absolutely certain that psychedelics have anything whatsoever to do with the spiritual quest."