Originally aired as Salon #418 of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. "Every drug problem can usually be traced to a previous drug problem." "I think drugs are much safer than gurus." "I've never been absolutely certain that psychedelics have anything whatsoever to do with the spiritual quest."

"Every drug problem can usually be traced to a previous drug problem." "I think drugs are much safer than gurus." "I've never been absolutely certain that psychedelics have anything whatsoever to do with the spiritual quest."

"Boundary-dissolving internal hierophany does in fact reliably occur in the presence of these [psychedelic] plants and compounds." "We have become so accustomed to seeking the answer that even as a community we have a lot of trouble figuring out how you just…