…immediate family and from there to the resolution of the dualism involved in the question as to whether he was Dennis or Terrence. And finally and thankfully he came to REST with the realization that he was Dennis returned from the edge of the universe…

…plants. Special thanks to Jerry young for her flexibility. Thanks to Paul Herbert, Roy Tuffman and will knothke for putting Terrence on the air. Ernie Waugh, Chris Adam and kat McKenna helped fine tune the manuscript. We appreciate faustine bray for…

…again McKenna provides the mythology and mirror. We thank Clea McKenna for being very smart and funny. Thank the mushroom. Terrence is his own voice. Dennis plays himself. Kat remembers herself. Bertrand Davies is Guzman and plays piano. Witotos speak witoto.…

…fantasy. Lyrics by Brian Wallace, Arrangements by nomad band. Many effects were recorded on location throughout the world. Thank you Terrence, thank the book for being a vehicle, thank the machinery, thank the weather, thank the ancestors, thank the listeners,…

…know I can't understand what it means. I walked on towards the river. As I walked along, I did some experiments. I said Terrence, Terrence it was very much like talking to yourself. Then I said Dennis, and the thing was instantly there just ready to do…

…I can't understand what it means. I walked on towards the river. As I walked along, I did some experiments. I said Terrence, Terrence it was very much like talking to yourself. Then I said Dennis, and the thing was instantly there just ready to do…

…I played with that for a while and it was interesting but I was not given peace by my muse who said no no, this is Terrence, this is stupid stuff. You know that poem by a e hausman anyway there was more to it and so finally I realized, or I was…

…of the eschaton is the pervading essence of life in the 20th century. Or I'm a monkey's uncle. Thank you very much, Terrence. I'm curious: are there other people who've done a lot of work in this field that have particularly influenced you or who…

…are on the wind, fish are here and they fly for me I'm in a movie I made with Richard and Leon. Here's Terrence getting his makeup put on not to get beautiful. Hi Terrence, I'm beautiful. Okay, here's my makeup. Okay here's Terrence McKenna. Terrence…

…I'm in a movie I made with Richard and Leon. Here's Terrence getting his makeup put on not to get beautiful. Hi Terrence, I'm beautiful. Okay, here's my makeup. Okay here's Terrence McKenna. Terrence explain what it is that we're looking at here. This is…

…getting his makeup put on not to get beautiful. Hi Terrence, I'm beautiful. Okay, here's my makeup. Okay here's Terrence McKenna. Terrence explain what it is that we're looking at here. This is the monument to the departure point of the Great Portuguese…

…hi hi, say hi to Dennis. Hi Dennis, Another age of navigation we're going to navigate out into the master of chaos, me and Terrence, the shaman, spelled with an x, and the neuromancer how far does he like it Terrence here? Does he like it Giotto or…

…out into the master of chaos, me and Terrence, the shaman, spelled with an x, and the neuromancer how far does he like it Terrence here? Does he like it Giotto or it's nice of the tile, Terrence here, sort of like a Greco Christ. There was a young…

…most of you are being a little more successful. But never discourage the search. Anyway I wanted to while I was listening to Terrence talk earlier I had 150 000 ideas, but one of the things that I am very familiar with as a writer especially somebody…

…experience, means embracing chaos. Hang on, we'll be fine once we get to the other side. Keep the faith, stay stoned. I talked with Terrence on the couch a few minutes ago and I'll tell you what I told him. It's a rare and wonderful moment in the…

…a rare and wonderful moment in the history of someone who has been a bike carrier or a message sender on this long path. Terrence said to deb before we got on stage today that basically we are sending out ideas. We call them means. We're sending out…

…heights and accelerations and uh, at this moment you would know that there are people like like barlow and like mel and uh Terrence carry on the work and saying everything I'm saying with more force and with uh more eloquence and I thank you John and…

…could come up to the microphone and those who have additional questions if you could sort of queue up behind and then Terrence will answer them. And the first question is: what happened to the dinosaurs? Oh what happened to the dinosaurs an easy question.…

…and a joke and a game and you just have to keep your wits about you. Somebody else, or did that clear the deck Terrence? I have a question: with all the substances that you've ingested over the years, what kind of effect deleterious or otherwise has it…

…should have to answer for this outrage. Of course I have to tell you I'm a recovering Catholic so next, well Terrence, You're advocating civil assignment here as a possible key towards the necessary transformation in consciousness that we need, you know for…

…It's still a secret it's the secret that can't be told. And with that let's now rewind this talk back to the beginning and join Terrence and a few friends on a June day in 1994 and just for fun, try to recall what you were doing that month. Cillessen…

The vice chairman of the L.A. County Young Republicans. Thank you both for being here today. Terrence, you are a supporter of the use of certain psychedelic drugs. Let's talk about those. Which ones? Well, Tom, I'm interested in the drugs that are…

…about some of the things that he has been doing as the program progresses today. Dan, let's talk about that last statement that Terrence made before the break. Will you feel like less than a complete person if you don't have some kind of a psychedelic…

…that young, and I've done a lot, and that's one of the reasons I take issue with people that recreate with drugs. Terrence was saying that he gets the creeps at the thought of someone not... having a psychedelic experience. I would think more and…

…all. This is blaming human nature on a substance. That's ridiculous. And I know I have to be brief, so I wanted to ask also Terrence, if he has any information or if he knows where I could get any information on a drug called MDMA. I tried it once.…

…real some of his experiences are. They were his perceptions of experiences in his brain. As I was starting to say to Terrence before, it's hard for a person to evaluate something that is altering their powers of evaluation. It's a contradiction. So, you…

…people. It didn't solve all my affinity group problems. My name's toby and I think we have a mutual friend, at least one: Terrence. Nina Wise has been urging me to hear you at the first opportunity because she says that you have a very original…

…me to cat, who is the mother of my children. So Nina's webbed in there. Good, I'm Brian. We've been recording and working with Terrence for a number of years and this is the first time I've heard him bad rap, sex and rock and roll I don't know…

…is that and musician, and generally the topic is infinitely interesting. So we're here. I'm Boston I like the fact that Terrence Tickles my linguistic fancy and that's why I'm here. I'm Richard and being an electronic engineer involved in development of…

…how that fits in with what I do. Yeah good, and I'll say more about all that as I cross that line. My name is Terrence and I've also just recently moved to the bay area from Austin. I had a lot of experience with psychedelic drugs in the 60s and…

…from deep structures of the brain and dumping of memory banks and but that it can just address you in real time and say Terrence you know and then proceed to blow my mind. The only and now several things may be happening here the only time when we…

…right away in about 20 years and I may not care about it at that point 2012 is that right? Yeah we have Terrence McKenna. Terrence welcome to kfi, welcome to my show welcome to the chief show. I'm glad to have you here and I'm very, very anxious to…

…you know the kids now that are teenagers who parents you know were raised in a hippie time and stuff. It is really frightening Terrence you don't recommend this to kids. No, no I don't recommend this to kids. I think we are reaping the whirlwind of the…

…worst kind of thing that we can do, because it sends a message to our kids and I want to make it really clear here, Terrence because we've been talking and you do not think this is something that the kids ought to pick up and do as a regular kind…

…the telephones. We're going to talk to mike in studio city welcome to kfi mike. Thank you chief how are you? Question for Terrence Yeah Terrence, did you, you know in all your academic work because I'm an academic myself take into account the fact that,…

…We're going to talk to mike in studio city welcome to kfi mike. Thank you chief how are you? Question for Terrence Yeah Terrence, did you, you know in all your academic work because I'm an academic myself take into account the fact that, for example…

…is? It's ketamine, I mean it's related to PCP. It's an anesthetic oh, they take that. Different strokes for different folks. Yeah, Terrence, Without trivializing it, it sounds to me like what you've got is a real good candidate for the big black thing in…

…here in Prague with you. Well it's nice to have a chance to talk to you again you did that very well. The Zen Patriarchs Terrence Terrence can I get you to stay there just for a SEC where you were with David? They want us back right here. Don't talk…

…in Prague with you. Well it's nice to have a chance to talk to you again you did that very well. The Zen Patriarchs Terrence Terrence can I get you to stay there just for a SEC where you were with David? They want us back right here. Don't talk and…

…it's an easy assignment. Did you see the? Have you had a chance to appreciate all this jugendstile architecture? Oh yes, it's astonishing. Terrence Terrence I need the sound just of the water. Okay you're free to talk. Are we free to move? Are you done…

…an easy assignment. Did you see the? Have you had a chance to appreciate all this jugendstile architecture? Oh yes, it's astonishing. Terrence Terrence I need the sound just of the water. Okay you're free to talk. Are we free to move? Are you done with…

…is straight ahead. There you go. How was that? Give me the gear. Okay maybe you have to come back a little bit, Terrence come back a little bit. There you go. Okay roll camera, rolling speed. A fragmentary localism where you have one level of loyalty…

…that it is avoidance, but at some point you have to see that that has to manifest itself in a reduction of what Terrence has called what you call the dematerialization of culture. So what you're suggesting at some point has to manifest itself in the…

…and so usually we have an induction process in which one person makes the call to the trialogue mode and in spite of what Terrence said, I'm not going to do a dog and pony show, but I'm going to take my turn this morning at the induction, which…

…the induction process this morning which of course if I risk this might fail. So the first story took place a year ago and Terrence and Rupert were involved in no part of this story. I was sitting in my office with my secretary, Nina, about a year and…

…resolve which swerved my career to a search for the connections between mathematics and the experience of the logos, or what Terrence calls the transcendent other, this hyper dimensional space full of meaning and wisdom and beauty, which feels more real than…

…symbol of the Mandelbrot set. You can't make a Mandelbrot set in a wheat field. I mean it's just what do you think it is Terrence? Well as you can tell I'm not swept away. Well I'm not sure but I think that the kind of ratiocination that's been done…

…it's not continuous, it's discontinuous, but the discontinuities are more or less dense as a fractal the first such person is you, Terrence I give you credit in writing in my entry in the encyclopedia of time you maybe have never read that book, never…

…by the vices of today seems to me to beg a number of questions. However, I'll be there at the rave tonight too, Terrence and there I'll be able to see this Paradise That's unfolding before us. Your point about television is well taken I totally agree…

…is that it has this enormous leverage, and at every crossing of the road you've made the right choice to get more leverage and Terrence. I think that your program also is a good one in that it's over the years changed in the direction of younger people…

…if I may say so, going to have a very interesting show. Today we have Terrence McKenna on with us and we're very pleased, since Terrence is here in New York he decided to come and join us here at the studio. Terrence is here going to be talking at…

…on with us and we're very pleased, since Terrence is here in New York he decided to come and join us here at the studio. Terrence is here going to be talking at st John the divine and at source of life center during a weekend this weekend and you'll…

…actually after the weekend. So if you get a taste of Terrence's Antics and wild thinking, you will be able to find out when Terrence will be back in town for the next round. So welcome, Terrence. It's a pleasure to be here, great good to have you,…

…Antics and wild thinking, you will be able to find out when Terrence will be back in town for the next round. So welcome, Terrence. It's a pleasure to be here, great good to have you, absolutely so, god there's so much that we can really embark upon…

…good to have you, absolutely so, god there's so much that we can really embark upon to talk about because you have Terrence has been so interesting in this world because he's bringing such a rich array of different kinds of thoughts and fantasies to…

…convert to Christianity. Alaric the visigoth burned Eleusis on his way to North Africa to burn other things. Yeah, I was wondering, Terrence if you'd had a chance to read the emperor's new mind by Roger Penrose. I think it's an argument against the idea…

…be a much better place if there was only one man for every three women. It's an obviously over the top idea that even Terrence Doesn't believe in but he says that it's primarily intended to get people talking about the fact that our current way of life…

…up once every night and come up with a maximum number. I'm not sure it's a proper role for a hermit book collector. So Terrence, You're saying then if I hear you correctly, that we have to, as Jose is saying, we have to get away from this gerorian…

…they don't understand anything. Why should we understand? Look at us we wear penis sheets and paint ourselves blue. You're asking us Terrence I once heard that you said and you can confirm or deny this you said that aliens were really mushrooms. Well this…

So in the 1960s our speaker, Terrence, was a student, like many of you, at uc Berkeley and he left in the middle of things to go on a tour around the world for seven years that ended in the deepest Amazon basin, where he had an experience that has…

…following and which is the subject of his latest book, true hallucinations. So now in this historic moment, after all this time, Terrence will ascend the platform of the University of California for the first time. What I thought I would talk about when I…

…ready for everything. So for those of you who aren't familiar with his work let me tell you a little bit about it. Terrence is a great speaker and a fascinating thinker but he's also an ethnobotanist and he and his wife Catherine McKenna, have quite a…

…done because as you know the rainforest is disappearing at such an incredibly rapid clip. So they're doing very serious work. Terrence also does some rather amazing work with computers and with all kinds of computer programs. So he's not just an enthusiast…

…might think of him as, he's also quite a thinker and an intellectual. In fact I would say that what I value most about Terrence is not necessarily all his ideas. I find myself not being able to agree with all his ideas. I'm not sure anyone could agree…

…Botanical dimensions, which you can pick up for free and find out about the work they're doing. So let's get into it. Terrence has been called an altered statesman and a psycho activist and I think you're going to very much appreciate what you hear…

…become dominant in future society? With me is Terrence McKenna, a specialist in shamanistic cultures and hallucinogenic plants and drugs. Terrence is the co author with his brother Dennis of the invisible landscape mind, hallucinogens and the I Ching, and…

…plants as used by native peoples throughout the world and he's also the author of timewave zero, a computer software package. Welcome, Terrence It's a pleasure to be here. Jeffrey, you know we're a specialist in really in the past, in the ancient past,…

…does. I think it does, probably. Anyway, cool. Big deal on Sunday. So now, have we got somebody on the phone? Terrence, are you there? Terrence McKenna. Not hearing anything. Terrence. Terrence is probably sitting there going, I'm here, I'm here. The phone…

…Big deal on Sunday. So now, have we got somebody on the phone? Terrence, are you there? Terrence McKenna. Not hearing anything. Terrence. Terrence is probably sitting there going, I'm here, I'm here. The phone just went out, says Karen. I heard that all…

…deal on Sunday. So now, have we got somebody on the phone? Terrence, are you there? Terrence McKenna. Not hearing anything. Terrence. Terrence is probably sitting there going, I'm here, I'm here. The phone just went out, says Karen. I heard that all the…

…phone just went out, says Karen. I heard that all the way back here. The phone is funky. We apologize to everybody, including Terrence. We'll get Terrence back. He's having a bad weather thing there. Another one? Yes. So when I just got him on the…

…out, says Karen. I heard that all the way back here. The phone is funky. We apologize to everybody, including Terrence. We'll get Terrence back. He's having a bad weather thing there. Another one? Yes. So when I just got him on the phone, he said, let's…

…in the very least. Was she dancing? No, she was just trying to be unobtrusive. But this woman being unobtrusive is a showstopper Terrence. When you talk about language or the word you said people talk to me you left out the whole body language. When you…

…because of the telephone. The telephone really staunches that. We probably were much more linguistically rich in the past. We've muted ourselves Terrence just to let you know what happens when you discover sparks nowadays. When I was a kid I was a science…

…by the year 2000 under the heading millennium. But let me just ask you how many people are fascinated by the year 2000? See Terrence and a few followers now on the other hand if you were interested in 2048, now there's a power of two. That's an…

…mini log. Yes, this is a fugitive, yes or no? It's a cautionary note. Well I think this is the kind of subject so much Terrence has less to say. Well I may have the most to say I'm not sure it's what you want to hear. Conspiracy theory generally…

…through a maze culture. Is an intelligence test and when you pass that test you don't give a shit about culture. Do we need Terrence to boil this down to a no, yes? Well I think that Terrence's McLuhan Esque theory is more or less correct but it…

…means we could hope for an evolutionary leap following which we would be evolutionary ready. That means that we, contrary to what Terrence has said that everything is okay with us. I disagree with that. I think that we don't have the intelligence or the…

…your response. This stuff is mighty peculiar, I want you to know. I think so too. I haven't grown blasé. You get better Terrence, thank you it's nice of you to say so. I've just been really impressed lately with more and more stuff I've been hearing…

…A hellish marriage of commercialism and transcendental concerns. Yeah, the idea of shaman pharmaceuticals inc is definitely worth pondering. Yeah, Terrence thank you for sharing, and I'd like to say your role as a cosmic facilitator, your ability to bring…

…a very important reason to go live today because of the unfolding of the events and as we've been speaking about here today, Terrence has been on a nationwide tour. You haven't had trouble in any other city nobody else has been frightened by what you…

…be very useful for people associated with UCLA to let the office of management of public affairs know what they think. Thanks, Terrence good luck thank you, hope to see you at the get together and you're encouraging everybody to go ahead and come out…

…you're on the air that's me yeah, oh I wanted to tell you that what UCLA is doing is just kindling more interest in Terrence, who I think is utterly magnificent, and I wanted to say that I've been lamenting to my friends that this has been the worst…

…you've got to do it over. That means step back and leap forward or step further back. You hit it right on the head Terrence this has been the week. I can't imagine anything more that could happen. And everybody I've talked to I haven't talked to a…

…bit more and defend yourself in terms of this whole thing about taking drugs etc. But let's take another call from a listener listen Terrence a couple of years ago I talked to you on the Roy Science fiction I'd never read it and you were very nice…

…creatures, time has qualities. There are times where everything seems to go right and everything seems to go wrong. That's true, Terrence That's absolutely true. I've wondered about that all my life. There are periods of time where, in effect, you can do…

…this. I'm on to it from I guess more of a pedestrian perspective than yourself after listening to your first half hour Terrence but we're talking about it suddenly dawned on me exactly precisely the same thing. I've been doing this talk radio program for…

…attention. We'll get through this little business here at the end of the 20th. We're going to get ready to listen to a friend of yours, Christian Retz after we get back here. All right, I'll be talking to you okay thanks, Terrence. Okay bye bye, bye.

We'll just start with a song that was inspired by some experiences that Terrence speaks about. We can fly to distant galaxies without any Rocket ship. We can ride the racing neural pathways of the brain. We can slither with the snakes in the swamps of…

…physically. Well there's also the exceptional personality. The exceptional personality breaks all the rules, see. So would you say then, Terrence, that there is a genetic proclivity maybe in some individuals if there is access to botanicals and if there is…

…to this re archaicization that wants to go on. Thank you. I guess the ultimate psilocybin question is: can you envision Terrence in your wildest imagination that we as a society, instead of individuals taking mushrooms and gaining some enlightenment, that we…

…of the sultan tarot. Terrence McKenna and Joan Halifax, Inciter frenzy. How do you incite do you make incisions? Incisor, inciset. Terrence introduced the pre existing notion of peer review into council and since the peers were assembled and it's not only…

…I thought it might be timely at this moment in our day to hear from various of the council faculty their perspective on what Terrence has been saying this morning, which is what it has been and what they might have to add by contrast or parallel. So…

…think someone would be outraged well I'm outraged good what is it you're outraged about well I just really expected more from Terrence because because obviously the mushroom must speak the truth. So we have to take this seriously. But yet it's just another…

…because obviously the mushroom must speak the truth. So we have to take this seriously. But yet it's just another calendar, as Terrence said. Well we just have another calendar isn't that what you said? I said that at a moment that explained how that…

…Yes he is definitely a mentor. The story of the sect of the Phoenix in labyrinth bears examination. I'm getting the sense, Terrence that there's the possibility of something being born from the planet which we can hardly conceive of. So far so good. Yes…

…big jump and in that sense it is larger than the world wide web, or is it? That's the question, the other evidence. Well okay Terrence you described the world wide web a little you even invoked his name, McLuhan, and I think that you gave a kind of a…

…exist after the construction of this new technological piece? No I think there is. There is no way to justify this and again Terrence you used the word the gnostic, whatever you said, we feel that and have discussed a couple of years ago I think the…

…in the tenderer portions of my anatomy is not alien enough for my case. I think you'd be due for an abduction Terrence, but probably you've already had one you're in denial, I'm sure given sufficient therapy under the right hands we could confirm it.…

…in English that altavista translates into six words. Let's have another one: technical solutions. Roe v Dave. Two questions. Quick question: Terrence you said earlier you said the way to guarantee our existence is to make us indispensable to our fellow man…

…person best qualified to foresee the year 2012 actually says he can't see it. So that's that meanwhile. Well, you hesitated. Terrence time and newsweek magazines had no inhibition in laying down exactly what was coming in 2010, 20 and 30, particularly 2030…

…nights doing all of this digitizing and my brain must have become a little digitized in the process. Anyway I apologize for cutting Terrence Off in mid sentence just now and I apologize in advance for it just now more or less jumping into the middle of…

…there really isn't any good reason for this but had you been there I'm sure you would understand completely. And now back to Terrence, going back to Plato to say that if god did not exist, human beings would create god. We are creating god, our cultural…

…Our aborted plan included a space for a response to the weekend from everyone, and now we need a new plan. So let's consider this together. We can quit now making extra space for final hugs, which I think are very appropriate in case Terrence is right.

…at all is astonishing. The demand that one be able to get there without pharmacological assistance seems to me perverse. It's interesting, uh Terrence this is uh rusty hoover. Uh you may remember me as the sound man I can I can barely hear you uh this…

…but others would argue that including your brother uh in a recent uh interview I think I have the quote right here Fabio Um Terrence your brother has critiqued you a bit on this point about the other, I think he said that he made a statement that…

…an hour and a half in the wine country. Hey you know there's one thing that we haven't said we haven't said at all that Terrence is going to be here very soon that's right a week from tomorrow night in fact. Do you want to just briefly explain what…

…at the open center itself. Okay let's put some phone callers on. Hello you're on the air, hi how are you guys doing? Okay, Terrence, Yeah how are you? How are you? I'm really excited about a lot of things that happen with the rave culture in England…

…this with every human adaptation. Okay thanks to that caller, let's take one more. You're on the air hi I wanted to ask Terrence, what do you have to say to people who are in a recovery program, such as alcoholics anonymous or narcotics anonymous, who…

…looking for chocolate chip cookies. But this is hardly grounds for hanging, which is the current legal response in Malaysia. My impression, Terrence is that your experience is not typical and most of the things you described I would say are typical of my…

…I won't tell you about the stellarator it's lovely, it's lovely the stellarator, but some variant on the stellarator will work. Terrence I swear I believe you. I believe you. You discussed the potential effects that alpha centauri's light and the energy…

…it with the student chalice and so on. And then when I returned from India to California about the time I met you, Terrence I I began to think that there might be some way to revitalize the western tradition. Of course other people were speaking about…

…a thick book called hamlet's mill. So looking further than at chaos as the milky way, you see, like the photograph that Terrence has just showed, the the prototypical chaos in the sense of randomness or disorder and and so on, understanding that you can…

…Given a biology, b psychedelics and culture, probably that's a long enough list but those two things alone secure the weirdness of being sufficiently. We can call it quits. It's late too. You should get your REST Terrence. Yes I should we all should.

…going to live. The imagination is the only place where the human soul is at home. Very, very good, you want to take a REST, Terrence? Come on. Well listening to Tim, One thing occurred to me that I wanted to leave with you, and that is what this is…

…Thank you, David, for sharing that with us. Let me just share one other thing which was centering around how we met. Terrence was talking about seeing across the crowded room that phenomenon and the interesting thing that happened to me was I had left…

…that the plants do provide a very powerful avenue to that. However, my sense about the plants providing a powerful avenue as I've told Terrence and maybe we can talk about that some more is that it has to be also in the context of a number of social…

…We haven't had a UFO project but it was top secret so they might be interested in a way that we don't know about Terrence. I don't like this idea of making a large bet on this single theory. I agree that from our perspective the hoax theories have…

…would be my personal definition of the effective dose of a drug you should be able to tell it from any other drug Terrence. There are certain parallels that are quite obvious, and one of them that immediately comes to mind are examples such as st Joan…

…interested in new ways to look at the future and how our experience is as much as possible. I'm Lynn Shamshland and I've seen Terrence perform and read one of your books. I've also forgotten it but I enjoyed it and I just thought it would be cool to…

…both his tools and the music I compose is often for computer applications or internet. Let's see, I think I probably first read Terrence Somewhere in the range of 20 years ago and I have been exploring for research purposes only for 25 years. Well we…

…strong power in terms of the internet and so we did that and now I'm waiting for the next step. I'm really here. I saw Terrence once and I love time waves zero. It makes a lot of sense but I can't quite believe that everything's going to end in…

…because of this I guess I know a lot of people who write, and mark is one of those people. Last time I saw Terrence was with Richard Metzger. He's another person who writes and so that's one reason I'm here. I'm also here because I'm really deeply…

…expanded my thinking. So I can't conclude this is my summer vacation. Welcome. My name is Cheryl and I've been listening to Terrence for many years now and I've always greatly admired and appreciated the artistry with which you use language and also the…

…particular, very optimistic. I mean I see it as a necessary chaos that will lead to a new and more attractive order. Terrence, you were talking about extraordinary realities and it occurs to me that there is an enormous amount of prejudice against the…

…words like corks in a raging river but in fact that's a false model. I think anybody want to get in on this Terrence. Yeah, sometimes when I'm listening to you, I have sort of the troubling thought that I think Terrence Hasn't done enough psychedelics…

…to get in on this Terrence. Yeah, sometimes when I'm listening to you, I have sort of the troubling thought that I think Terrence Hasn't done enough psychedelics or I think that you're too straight in some way. When you get onto some of your scientific…

…They can infect you. Yeah, you don't know. Put down that groundhog baby Elizabeth you don't know where it's been. What is truth? Terrence I mean what I believe in is what I called and I mentioned it last night the felt presence of immediate experience,…

…really a difference from before. But let me say something about what I think is the significance of this and both Terrence and Joan have already alluded to it. It's because the shamanic revival and the pre literate shamanic aboriginal culture, primal…

…that you, Ralph, Pretty much extolled the virtues of MDMA for experiences in the generic kind that we're discussing here today Terrence you give criteria when you talk about what you think are useful criteria for substance selection in terms of what you…

…that I want to read you a brief passage from Blake's the marriage of heaven and hell in which he summarizes basically what both Terrence and I said yesterday in a few memorable lines. Let's know who's on top in terms of literature well, he was one of…

…of ally do you want to do that? Well it's hard to describe a ritual and they are not only the rituals. I think Terrence and I share an abiding interest in the rituals surrounding these plants in traditional cultures and at the same time I feel and I…

…different thing, meditation is a different thing, and to try to trade one for the other is really to confuse the issue. Terrence, you mentioned that when one takes psychedelics that things can come up from the subconscious, and the question I have then…

…psychoactive plants with a long history of human use. Let's talk about safety now we have just a few minutes left Terrence and since we've talked about some of the interesting sides of using hallucinogens let's talk about safety in hallucinogens. Can you…

…a few months left in the 20th century, but time for one more atrocity, apparently apparently and now I understand by the way, Terrence Late news there are seven Russian Warships on the way to the area. To they say: observe, but I don't know, you get…

…of sabers about this and umm, it really well you know it still happens. The old days of duck and cover you remember that, Terrence? Duck and cover? No I think you know Vietnam gave the domino theory a bad name but I think in the Balkans the domino…

…well why should I listen to anything emanating from this drug scorched brain? But of course that's the only problem with you, Terrence is your brain doesn't appear to be drug scorched and it should be. If what the establishment tells us about drugs is…

…really as good as when you were up and I think that's kind of what we're talking about here in a way isn't it Terrence? Yeah well most of us probably would come in on the low end of that scale although there are some spectacular counter examples.…

…of the courts and the scientific establishment to really manage. Well I don't know if you go to a doctor, you will notice these days Terrence I don't know if you ever go to doctors, but when you do, a doctor will say: you know what I know you're in…

…with a couple of questions for you guys based on this idea. Well, I wouldn't have thought of this exactly, but I think Terrence suggested that I was guilty of making a mathematical model for monogamy, and since that's true I might as well share it with…

…a teacher, lecturer, mentor and all around great guy. Please welcome to the podium, Dr Stanley Krippner. Thank you very much, Terrence and thank you very much for such a brilliant introductory talk. Well some of you remember that when Albert Hoffman wrote…

…up to the stage and we'll meet back here everybody in 20 minutes. At this time I'd like to turn it over to Terrence McKinnon again, who's going to encourage you to donate freely to our foundation. So here's Terrence, and thank you all very much for…

…like to turn it over to Terrence McKinnon again, who's going to encourage you to donate freely to our foundation. So here's Terrence, and thank you all very much for being here tonight. Oscar, excuse me I want to introduce very briefly Oscar Janiger. I…

…an umbrella for all of these things that are going on and give a further emphasis to these studies. We need your help and Terrence is going to tell you how we're going to get it. Thank you very much. Well I think you can probably tell for yourselves…

…particular, very optimistic I mean. I see it as a necessary chaos that will lead to a new and more attractive order. Terrence you were talking about extraordinary realities and it occurs to me that there is an enormous amount of prejudice against the…

…the place where everybody kind of unloaded their baggage to a certain point to lighten the load for the hike into the jungle, and Terrence wrote in there that you all had seen a light in a field that apparently was there and you all were trying to…