…you all were trying to kind of chase it around or get up to it. And then later on in the book, of course Terrence talks about his UFO sighting, which was pretty profound in my opinion because I've heard identical similarities to that that I spoke to…

…lay there and just wait and watch. Well Dr McKenna, did you notice like when you saw the light in the field or when Terrence saw the Adamski like craft, do you happen to remember, were you guys talking about this type of stuff were you focused on it…

…this type of stuff were you focused on it at the time when you saw it we were focused on it. Yeah I mean I was not. When Terrence saw the Adamski craft I was not there I mean I was there but I was so out of it at that point I was off in my…

…right dose to get the voice or the presence or whatever you want to call it that both the McKenna Brothers talk about. And Terrence made it pretty clear that you know if you don't get certain effects with DMT or with the mushroom you just didn't take…

…I'm having a problem with is, yeah you're seeing these things in the psychedelic state but why are they manifesting outside of that you know, Terrence had his UFO sighting and he says in his lecture: I wasn't loaded umm I I was it was up I was up all…

…I mean that's kind of the used car salesman attitude that these things have and they can also apparently be very insistent. Terrence relates that as he went back time after time and became more and more familiar that the objects that they were singing…

…planet. I can't even think of any others. Short term memory loss but I was talking. Oh by the way I should tell you, Terrence and I keep meeting in the most wonderful, mythic, adventurous places. I was doing a wild tour to Germany about a year ago. We…

…it's painful my impression is that the poppy would be the way to go okay thank you. Thanks for keeping it light. Yeah, hi Terrence my name is Joao and I was born in South America, in the Amazon, and after that I went to Germany to study chemistry…

…going to work if you get it right. In the absence of a scale, how might one measure five grams of dry psilocybin spring for the scale Terrence I was here the last time you were in l a I think it was about a year and a half two years ago and I…

…can get together more often than once every year and a half or two years, and whatever that may take sounds good. That's it. Terrence I was interested in your concept of fate. It reminded me of a quote by Jung where he says that fate is doing…

…it all right lee thank you for your call to Santa Cruz. We go to bj good morning. Oh thanks for taking my call. Hello Terrence, Hi Barry how are you this morning? Great, yes I just wanted to comment on a misunderstanding of the new age I heard Mr…

…too. Misogyny probably has an older history. Phyllis from menlo park join us please good morning, wow my mind is spinning. Hi Terrence, I was at the conference at esalen where you and Mr Abraham and Leonard Pardon me, Rupert Sheldrake I think first…

…that don't necessarily always fall into an ability to communicate. Vision is the key word here. Troy thank you for much of what Terrence McKenna's Whole thinking career and search has been about but I mean where do we get vision from? From what part of…

…water bottle so you just get some whopping 2,000 milliliter force-injected cool smoke hit. I'm telling you, it'll rock you. Terrence, would that work with the 5X extraction? In sense, would that be something... No, that's probably strong enough that you're…

…trying to do here in the psychedelic salon? At least I hope it is. Which reminds me, I wanted to comment on something else Terrence said that kind of disturbed me. It's something I don't think he made very clear. And that was when he said, if you…

…make a connection this weekend, you blew it. Well, I've got to take issue with that, at least the way it sounded. When I heard Terrence say that just now, I thought of all the times my friends and I have met new people who are way too over-eager to…

…beautiful. And for me, it's even more beautiful with all of you being here with us in the Psychedelic Salon. And although Terrence didn't end this particular workshop the way I've heard him end several others, I think it might be fitting right now. So,…

…was then re crystallized and tested out to be pure virtually pure. It's really complicated to explain it. I was asked not to Terrence I was asked not to say that. Well I actually I don't I'm not black I can't remember exactly. It's solvent. Let's see…

…should have to answer for this outrage. Of course I have to tell you I'm a recovering Catholic. Next, next well, Terrence you you're advocating as a possible key towards the necessary transformation in consciousness that we need, you know for this culture,…

…as I love that music that's been on in the background and we will say just barely: good morning at 11: 56 to Terrence McKenna. Terrence, Hello, pleasure to be with you and you are here for the whole life expo. I am and you will be speaking Kathy when…

…Tomorrow at 5 o clock, 5 o clock in the afternoon in the coliseum. In the coliseum we had such an incredible response to Terrence last year he sold out the biggest room we had so we've moved him over to the coliseum where he hopefully will be able…

…of people who know all about him or a great deal about him but for those who know nothing about Terrence McKenna Terrence how would you introduce yourself? I guess I'm a plant biologist turned psychedelic advocate, transformed into a kind of spokesman for…

…This is the last week to make your contributions. I hope you will do so right now even as we speak. 471 6291, Terrence the way in which you are talking about the psychedelic drugs that you've mentioned suggests that they might be something other than…

…call, pledge now a business membership would be nice too. Thank you very much for calling. Now back to Terrence McKenna. Terrence It's a controversial subject of course there are many people listening right now who think what this is outrageous. I have…

…about psilocybin? Oh that it would turn over. I want could you run down for people, if I understand you correctly Terrence I understand you believe, or it's the reality that the spore of psilocybin mushrooms are alien intelligence or intelligence from other…

…the director of the speakers program. It's responsible for all the getting all the speakers and all the publicity. So you'll introduce Terrence. Well first I want to welcome you all to this program. This is such a beautiful location to hold a spirit and…

…how that then promotes the idea of stewardship of the earth and think things towards the earth. We've gathered about eight speakers and Terrence is the second speaker of this program and I'd like to just tell you a little bit about who else will be…

…like to just introduce shiva ray Bailey who's our administrator and she'll just say a few things about today before I introduce Terrence. This is just very short because I know you're probably restless to hear our great speaker here today. We are very…

…an introduction but for those of you who don't know him I will repeat a little bit of what I said last night. Terrence is essentially an anarchist and an interdimensional explorer. He's a shamanologist and he is an author also. He has many books out…

…authored and food of the gods, the search for the original tree of knowledge, also we have here as well as others. And Terrence, as I said is an interdimensional adventure with an understanding of nature from the depths of the Amazon to the most current…

…ten chance. Yes, let's back up a little bit. Before you had the gamma knife, obviously, the doctor sat you down and said: Terrence, Here's where you are. Here are your options, here's your prognosis. What did they tell you before you even made a decision…

…was with them all the way and I said, guys, let's keep the oops factor to a minimum here. Yeah right, one little oops and Terrence is not Terrence Anymore. Well they tell you, they say you know the scary part of this is if we hit the motor strip,…

…the way and I said, guys, let's keep the oops factor to a minimum here. Yeah right, one little oops and Terrence is not Terrence Anymore. Well they tell you, they say you know the scary part of this is if we hit the motor strip, you're paralyzed. If…

…I was a little more forgetful but I certainly didn't feel like somebody who was at risk for brain seizure, the seizure itself. Terrence, did you just pass out? Were you in convulsions? What happened? Well what I had heard about this flu was that you had…

…follow my advice you're choosing grim death. Yes that's right, all right so we've got to pause here at the bottom of the hour, Terrence but when we come back I've got a lot of other questions for you. Go gather that pen and paper. I'm going to give…

…off, the question was asked about who were the famous psychedelic writers, particularly ones who were known to be psychedelic. So Terrence and tom and the audience all brought up several names that were mainly of people who weren't openly psychedelic but…

…have used one or more of our sacred medicines, and somehow the conversation jumped to the difference between fame and glory and Terrence said something along the lines of well fame is fleeting but glory is posthumous. That's what I'm after now don't hold…

…of a sudden there was this big silence in the room that just hung there like a huge cloud, but just for the smallest of an instant Terrence began to laugh like a kid who had just said a bad word or something and we all joined in with much relief.

…about trying to turn people toward shamanistic lifestyles, especially lifestyles based on relationship to plants and Cannabis is right up there. Terrence We're in the last day of a fundraiser here at kpfk and we'd like you to maybe tell the listeners why…

…and the people who run it. It's one of the last beacons of freedom in a progressively more fascistic and complicated country. Yeah well Terrence We're going to let you go so we don't run up your phone bill too much and we want to thank you so much…

…that the politics of Cannabis continue to blossom and in spite of my own skepticism, I'd love to see a world where we could all grow our food, get high, stop cutting the forest and live in community. Thank you so much Terrence. Okey doke bye bye bye.

…breast of the gaian mother too soon and so we became dysfunctional, turned to warfare, city building, resource extraction and propaganda Terrence can you tie in the you were talking about the rate of evolution of the brain and the biological process that…

…and that unnerves me because I think what life is for is to figure it out. Life is some kind of an opportunity. Okay, Terrence, how and from whom do you buy this stuff? Well they haven't made it easy for you, they've made it illegal. So that's really…

…in. The emergency room and then they'd have to run to keep the emergency alive long enough for anybody to look at it. Terrence, have you noticed? Is there any difference between whether you get one or three topes? As far as dosage, yes there's something…

…in the first place. You see, so it's, it's now what lies behind such raving as this. Can this coffee really be that strong Terrence? When you were in the jungle and Dennis had his 14 day psychotic episode or whatever it was, did he take the same drug…

…strategy of some sort and so on. So this is the kind of preservational work that we're doing there. Yes against the wall yes Terrence, thank you. A few days ago you were on kpfk with Roy and you mentioned briefly San Pedro, that's what you said. You…

…in front of and walk through into the time outside of history, the place before history. Another question: somebody over here yes, sir Terrence, welcome to l a, the people who have been sitting so many hours on the radio. I just want to say we really…

…in front of and walk through into the time outside of history, the place before history. Another question: somebody over here? Yes sir Terrence welcome to l a, the people who listen so many hours on the radio. I just want to say we really love you…

…who had been sitting across from this French woman and I watching this whole thing, leaned over and said to me: you see, Terrence It's just the mushroom's way of showing you that it can reach out and touch you anywhere. Anyway, it is it does. The…

…those of you who want to check them out. Alright, on to the main event: umm. I don't know every time I introduce Terrence, Umm I go through a few changes. Umm Terrence is certainly remarkable and there are quite a few things that are remarkable about…

…Alright, on to the main event: umm. I don't know every time I introduce Terrence, Umm I go through a few changes. Umm Terrence is certainly remarkable and there are quite a few things that are remarkable about him. Whenever I think I've heard his rap…

…rappers, certainly overall you know of any white ethnic group, umm and I've got to admit that I don't always agree with Terrence. Of course I don't always agree with anyone, not even myself on different days but I have a hard time sometimes accepting…

…psychedelic experience has been a centerpiece of my life in many ways or one of them, I also, more than Terrence I'm very wary about some of the potential downsides: physiologically, psychologically even ideologically, but nonetheless that's not really the…

…psychologically even ideologically, but nonetheless that's not really the point and you're not here to hear me, you're here to hear Terrence, but umm but Terrence is the only person really putting himself out on the line with an incredibly courageous stand,…

…a full crew complement for ports unknown tapes set to record. So chapter two: why did we love you? When you were here, Terrence stories flowed and droves came to your sort of theater an amazing concoction not seen since the shaman's tales of the dream…

…beckoned as the gadfly grew into the guru, no matter your abhorrence of the latter chapter 3, how did you fare, Terrence, in the 1980s? Dark thunderheads announced their throaty arrival, yet your course stayed ever truer to your sense anyway by 1990,…

…your sense anyway by 1990, business got scary. Your marriage dissolved and your teacher gave you a frightful licking one night. Terrence the teacher enough of the dancing mice, show me what you are for yourself. Brackets, black draperies lift organs tone…

…mice, show me what you are for yourself. Brackets, black draperies lift organs tone and the awning infinite cracks open. Teacher to Terrence: why did you turn away? Enough of the other. It's time for a dose of self, your self. The teacher turned on…

…why did you turn away? Enough of the other. It's time for a dose of self, your self. The teacher turned on Terrence and he never again returned. Instead, Terrence launched on a dubious decade, telling ever taller tales touting adventures on five to seven…