c/joseph-campbell
Mythologist and guide to the hero's journey. Campbell revealed the universal patterns in every culture's greatest stories - and how to live our own.
…emerged but then as an import somewhere else all the images have been alien, do you see what I mean? And to find the Christ power here is the goal of such a meditation. In some sense we have the native American Tradition being kind of the mythic image…
…This makes me think of the gnostic aphorism in the gospel according to Thomas, where and I've already mentioned this once before Christ is asked when the kingdom will come and Christ says it will not come by expectation. It is here now. The kingdom…
…in the gospel according to Thomas, where and I've already mentioned this once before Christ is asked when the kingdom will come and Christ says it will not come by expectation. It is here now. The kingdom of the father is spread over the earth and men…
…would be the disenchanting factor. So in these legends, the savior who is to disenchant the world is the equivalent of the Christ figure or the savior figure who opens men's eyes, or in the oriental tradition of Buddhism, to the buddha who releases you…
…is being celebrated all around him every day all the time? And all he had to do was go around the corner and there was Christ himself in the sacrament of the altar. What more do you want? Well the point is that the sacrament of the altar was simply…
…pond where two men are in a boat fishing when you look at the orphic imagery of the orphic tradition, orpheus is the fisher. Christ made his apostles fishers of men. The ring worn by the pope is called the fisherman's ring. I shall make you fishers of…
…He cannot walk, he is in great pain and he simply, this is the only thing he can do is sit in a boat fishing the Christ the maimed King, fishing for us. All. The boy asks where he could spend the night and the King says there is a castle up the…
…word galahad in old French Galahad, is taken right from the Bible, where it means heap of witness, galahad as a witness to Christ. He appears in Arthur's Castle, in Arthur's court, on the day of pentecost. The grail has been handed down to Joseph of…
…in Arthur's Castle, in Arthur's court, on the day of pentecost. The grail has been handed down to Joseph of Arimathea by Christ, but not Christ before the was founded by Christ Physically visible to mortal eyes to all mortal eyes. The grail tradition is…
…in Arthur's court, on the day of pentecost. The grail has been handed down to Joseph of Arimathea by Christ, but not Christ before the was founded by Christ Physically visible to mortal eyes to all mortal eyes. The grail tradition is communicated by…
…of pentecost. The grail has been handed down to Joseph of Arimathea by Christ, but not Christ before the was founded by Christ Physically visible to mortal eyes to all mortal eyes. The grail tradition is communicated by Christ risen to eyes worthy or…
…Christ before the was founded by Christ Physically visible to mortal eyes to all mortal eyes. The grail tradition is communicated by Christ risen to eyes worthy or capable of seeing the risen Christ and so the castle appears only to those eligible for it…
…eyes to all mortal eyes. The grail tradition is communicated by Christ risen to eyes worthy or capable of seeing the risen Christ and so the castle appears only to those eligible for it whereas the church is visible to simply everybody. I will conclude…
…be depicted as atonement, as it is in the Biblical Tradition where we are atoned with the father, or as at one ment, when Christ says: I and the father are one the word atonement actually is made up of these two and it has these two different…
…is that the realization or belief I am that is the prime heresy. It is for that that people are crucified and burned. When Christ said I and the father are one that was blasphemy and according to the texts as we receive them it was for that that…
…is its virtue for that he thanks it. One can ask oneself quietly whether that might not have been the aim of Christ himself. Halaj throws a light back on the mystery of Christ's Activities. That is certainly worth considering very seriously and not simply…
…specifically to a certain man in a certain place at a certain time, and no one else has it. In the Christian Tradition, Christ is true god and true man. This Christians regard as a mystery. In the orient as I've shown, everybody can say this of…
…you are a manifestation of the very energy of god and that energy is you, not god. God himself is a manifestation of that. Christ is true god and true man. Through our humanity we are related to Christ through his godhood he relates us to god but how…
…not god. God himself is a manifestation of that. Christ is true god and true man. Through our humanity we are related to Christ through his godhood he relates us to god but how do we get related to Christ? Through membership in his church. The…
…of the zoroastrians. Then this comes down into Christianity as well, and we have the whole theme of fall and redemption through Christ and the movement then toward the second coming which is also there in zoroastrianism, when the lion will lie down with…
…forms. When you go into a Catholic Household you'll see on the walls and the pictures, pictures of the virgin, the madonna, Christ, Angels, saints, st George and the dragon and all that. You're brought up with these mythological images, and the problem of…
…it and ask him if he wouldn't like to be a priest and just think of the noble career of the priest bringing Christ himself on the altar into the world. And Stephen begins to recognize that everything the priests say is somehow cliché. They haven't had…
…in Latin. The skull, the cross grows or is placed above the skull. Whose skull is it? It is said to be Adam's Skull. So Christ, the fruit of the tree who is called the second Adam, offered on the tree his blood falls and redeems that skull. This is…
…frightened person of your own potentialities. I remember one charming little minister one time saying to me: if I did not believe in Christ and the salvation of the Church I would become a terrible person. I said well what do you think you'd do? And he…
…lovely eyes and he was a Jewish Boy. He had the hair with what the germans call a Christus Gesicht he had cultivated the look of Christ and there he sat telling me second the third time he saw me I know I was right with what I told you first. I…
…you have any knowledge. Card number thirteen is death. Thirteen is the number in the center of the zodiac: the twelve apostles, Christ, the one to be crucified, the twelve and the one. Thirteen is regarded as an unlucky number, also as a lucky number,…
…not going too far in your spiritual zeal and thought for yourself. I might speak at this point of the three temptations of Christ in the desert: the forty days in the desert where he imitated in his personal life the forty years of the Jews in…
…one: the devil said: you are hungry, why don't you, with your wonderful powers simply turn these stones into bread? And Christ rejecting the economic interpretation of spiritual life there with Bernard Shaw said: man lives not by bread alone but by every…
…from then on dies closer, closer, closer to the sun, until it passes behind the sun for three days the moon is three days dark Christ Three days in the tomb. Then it is born, as it were from the sun. So in this mythology, the moon is the masculine…
…forth, the hebrews and the Arabs. These are all semitic languages. Phoenician is another semitic language, aramean, the language that Christ spoke, the language of that whole world at that period. These are the semitic languages. These people are closely…
…eagle, and the sign at the abyss here was the water carrier, aquarius. Now look at the west portal of Chartres Cathedral. This is Christ of the apocalypse. Christ appears in the center as the sun and he is surrounded by a winged bull, a winged lion, an…
…at the abyss here was the water carrier, aquarius. Now look at the west portal of Chartres Cathedral. This is Christ of the apocalypse. Christ appears in the center as the sun and he is surrounded by a winged bull, a winged lion, an eagle rather, and a…
…these are the four gospels. The bull is assigned to luke, the lion to mark, the man to Matthew and the eagle to John. Christ is the sun. Now go into a museum where they have babylonian and Assyrian figures and you will see these great composite animal…
…excitement in the ecclesiastical world and the whole story of the grail became associated then with that doctrine: the real presence of Christ in the eucharist, not a symbolic presence but the real presence. The grail romance that is the basic one of the…
…renunciation, confession of sins, sacramental experiences and so forth. However and this is again associated with Joachim of Floris work the Christ who is responsible for the grail in the hands of Joseph of Arimathea is the resurrected Christ. That is to…
…of Floris work the Christ who is responsible for the grail in the hands of Joseph of Arimathea is the resurrected Christ. That is to say in this tradition the grail tradition represents not the normal ecclesiastical tradition but the hermetic tradition of…
…grade of love is that of friend for friend, and this in the Christian Tradition is typified by the relationship of Christ and the apostles. They were friends, they could actually discuss things and even quarrel, and this implies a deeper religious readiness…
…in the Catholic Tradition is symbolized by the love of the nun for jesus the nuns wear a wedding ring they are brides of Christ. But also on the human level, the love of husband for wife and wife for husband. Is a degree of experience of the divine.…
…the oriental stories are exactly the same, that wonderful twelfth century of the troubadours. The same theme is represented in Christ, in his crucifixion, in certain interpretations of that mystery it has always been a great problem in Christian Theology why…
…in his crucifixion, in certain interpretations of that mystery it has always been a great problem in Christian Theology why Christ was crucified. He accepted crucifixion, according to the belief, voluntarily, and I won't go into all the various theories but…
…this double agony so to say in joy, is the essence of that love mystery which is symbolized in the devil in hell and in Christ on the cross and in any moment of love. Now the buddha idea of compassion is comparable to the Christian idea of agape or…
…does not have to be saved from original sin. Man can save himself he does not need the sacraments. This is the pelagian heresy. Christ, as a model is a great advantage to the Christian world because through that model man can be inspired to that act of…
…him to release himself from the darkness of ignorance. But it is not through vicarious grace gained by the crucifixion of Christ that the individual is to be saved. Well this was the first great heresy that Augustine Lost himself against. Without original…
…the sacraments for salvation, since man cannot save himself because we have inherited original sin and that is overcome by Christ and Christ's Virtue, which is communicated to man through the sacraments. The absolute necessity of man accepting the sacraments…
…mythological image of the wasteland, which is the basic image of the grail romance. The basic theme of the grail is the fishermen. Christ had said: I will make you fishes of men. The pope's ring is called the fisherman's ring. It has a picture of the…
…presence. Also that is the basic nature of agape: that you don't select whom you're going to be in love with. That the love of Christ is for all and love thy neighbor as thyself for the love of god and so on. Eros, the antipode to this, is also…
…concretely as meaning you've got to follow so and so, namely me it's being misread. The me that they're talking to is the Christ in us the god in us and they're pointing toward it. There's that wonderful little Japanese Zen sign of the finger pointing…
…and that the doctrine must not be mistaken and competize and say this is exactly it. It's not jesus who's speaking, but jesus Christ. The Christ is the second person of the blessed trinity which is the knower of god the father and that's what's within…
…the doctrine must not be mistaken and competize and say this is exactly it. It's not jesus who's speaking, but jesus Christ. The Christ is the second person of the blessed trinity which is the knower of god the father and that's what's within us to be…
…is the knower of god the father and that's what's within us to be brought to life. As Paul could say I live not on I but Christ in me, and so also Krishna can live in one Joseph One of the things you've done in your life and I never cease to be…
…central mountain is the same as the immovable spot under which the buddha sat. The central mountain is the same as the cross of Christ on the mount of the skull calvary. This is the same thing and it's right in yourself that's where it is this is what…
…you're still bound you're still a submissive and dependent person. When you talk about maturity and adulthood, I think of something Christ said: you must become as a little child to enter the kingdom of heaven. Let's juxtapose that with adulthood and…
…answer to this comes from Nietzsche in his artister in the introduction it's curious to bring Nietzsche in as the one for Christ, because typically he's thought to be the antichrist. You know, he thought so himself a little bit but these are two great…
…she said: oh I was at that lecture you gave on this subject and I was sitting beside a priest. And when you said the Christ in you asks you to live in that sense he said that's heresy, that's blasphemy. Blasphemy was the word that he used. Okay okay,…
…And when you get to areas close to old Russia you know Christian Orthodox, east orthodox Russia you find the man on the raft is Christ and the diver is the devil. He sends the devil down to get it and when he takes the mud out of the devil's mouth…
…the devil down to get it and when he takes the mud out of the devil's mouth the devil holds some mud in his mouth and Christ makes a nice smooth earth and then devil spits the mud out and those are the mountains and so forth and so on. So there is…
…threshold of the passage of eternity into time and of time into eternity. And in participating in this you are giving yourself to the Christ and what the Christ is is the Christ in us namely the knower of the father and so understanding it in terms of…
…of eternity into time and of time into eternity. And in participating in this you are giving yourself to the Christ and what the Christ is is the Christ in us namely the knower of the father and so understanding it in terms of its, what may be called…
…is as follows: of what use, Gabriel, your message to Marie, unless you can now give the same message to me, namely that the Christ should be born in me? And if it's not born in you, well then the religion hasn't worked. And whether you call it the…
…born in me? And if it's not born in you, well then the religion hasn't worked. And whether you call it the Christ or the buddha or cosmic consciousness or whatever it's the one message that these different religions are delivering. And unless one reads…
…one's own ground and base. Well if we look at our own culture as a judeo Christian Culture and we go back to Christ and certainly he was a teacher of the experience, he wasn't just imparting information, he was speaking from his experience own experience…
…up of manuscripts and one of the most interesting, I think is what's come to light with the gospel according to Thomas, where the Christ the words are put in the mouth of Christ or perhaps they came out of the mouth of Christ. We don't know about…
…I think is what's come to light with the gospel according to Thomas, where the Christ the words are put in the mouth of Christ or perhaps they came out of the mouth of Christ. We don't know about these gospels how much they really reproduce what was…
…and when you get to areas close to old Russia you know Christian Orthodox, east orthodox Russia you find that man on the raft is Christ and the diver is the devil. He sends the devil down to get it and when he takes the mud out of the devil's mouth…
…down to get it and when he takes the mud out of the devil's mouth the devil holds some mud in his mouth and jesus makes Christ makes a nice smooth earth and then devil spits the mud out and those are the mountains and so forth and so on. So there…
…had himself not been interested in alchemy. It is by analogy associated with the salvation of man through the birth of the Christ from the womb of an earthly being. That's the comparable image. Mythology is basically a system of analogies, as gold from…
…comparable image. Mythology is basically a system of analogies, as gold from base matter, so immortal life from mortal life, so the Christ from Adam, and so forth and so on and these analogies can be worked and then symbols begin to tell you something…
…But the sense of it is that that which is there is the life of my heart. When st Paul says I live now not I but Christ in me he's very close to that thought. The life of his life is the Christ. Can I ask you, Joseph about the works of Carlos…
…st Paul says I live now not I but Christ in me he's very close to that thought. The life of his life is the Christ. Can I ask you, Joseph about the works of Carlos Castaneda and don Juan and there's been some points raised in fact I was talking…
…or Mexican is and then that person's life story got mixed up with the life story of jesus of nazareth and the Christ. You see you get mixed up. Well something like that has happened in the handing down of the legends associated with quetzalcoatl.…
…blessed trinity. The second person of the blessed trinity is the theological principle, and when Paul says I live now not I, but Christ in me he didn't say jesus in me but the historical character he said Christ in me. It's a very important distinction.…
…Paul says I live now not I, but Christ in me he didn't say jesus in me but the historical character he said Christ in me. It's a very important distinction. These things are important. There's also a nice double entendre there: the crux of Christianity,…
…threshold of the passage of eternity into time and of time into eternity. And in participating in this you are giving yourself to the Christ and what the Christ is is the Christ in us namely the knower of the father and so understanding it. In terms of…
…of eternity into time and of time into eternity. And in participating in this you are giving yourself to the Christ and what the Christ is is the Christ in us namely the knower of the father and so understanding it. In terms of its what may be called…
…of time into eternity. And in participating in this you are giving yourself to the Christ and what the Christ is is the Christ in us namely the knower of the father and so understanding it. In terms of its what may be called mythological or spiritual…
…In terms of its what may be called mythological or spiritual sense, opens the image, and then it doesn't matter I mean whether Christ lived or not. Actually there's no doubt about it that jesus lived, that he was crucified, that he died and was buried…
…concretely as meaning you've got to follow so and so, namely me, it's being misread the me that they're talking to is the Christ in us the god in us and they're pointing toward it. There's that wonderful little Japanese Zen sign of the finger pointing…
…mythology of peace as contrasted with a mythology of war? Well a mythology of peace comes along in such doctrines as those of Christ or Laozi or Confucius or the buddha and so forth but those are not what dominate the culture. Spengler has a statement…
…one is as follows: of what use, Gabriel your message to Marie unless you can now give the same message to me, namely that the Christ should be born in me. And if it's not born in you, well then the religion hasn't worked. And whether you call it the…
…born in me. And if it's not born in you, well then the religion hasn't worked. And whether you call it the Christ or the buddha or cosmic consciousness or whatever, it's the one message that these different religions are delivering and unless one reads…
…one's own ground and base. Well if we look at our own culture as a judeo Christian Culture and we go back to Christ, and we certainly certainly he was a teacher of the experience. Not he wasn't just imparting information he was speaking from his own…
…digging up of manuscripts. And one of the most interesting I think is what's come to light with the gospel according to Thomas, where Christ the words are put in the mouth of Christ or perhaps they came out of the mouth of Christ. We don't know about…
…into the symbol, or many of them in any case being put into the symbol of the hero myth, for example, in the case of Christ and I also came up through the same religion and Christ was anything but one of the world's great heroes, he was the only one…
…into the symbol of the hero myth, for example, in the case of Christ and I also came up through the same religion and Christ was anything but one of the world's great heroes, he was the only one that was a personification of god and I noticed that…
…the only one that was a personification of god and I noticed that you've really found support for this comprehensive view, placing Christ in context mostly in the agnostic gospel of st Thomas and I'm wondering if in your study of the other orthodox…
…point of view you now see, why is it the orthodox gospels and their stories really come out with this duality where god and Christ are apart from man? Well those are big questions, my dear friend, very big now I'll try to answer them in two stages…
…institution. Now the interesting thing is when you read the life of the savior is plural Jain Saviors, Buddhist Saviors, Hindu Saviors, the Christ the same motifs are there time and time and time again you run into the same motifs. Or you can turn to…
…you're still bound you're still a submissive and dependent person. When you talk about maturity and adulthood I think of something Christ said: you must become as a little child to enter the kingdom of heaven. Let's juxtapose that with adulthood and…
…think the answer to this comes from Nietzsche in his in the introduction. It's curious to bring Nietzsche in as the one for Christ, because typically he's thought to be the antichrist. You know, he thought so himself a little bit but these are two great…
…to jesus or translating jesus into that context the tree of the fall and the tree of the redemption as two counterplayers and Christ as the fruit of the tree of eternal life. The way that caught on just like wildfire, and still more dramatic of course…
…she said: oh I was at that lecture you gave on this subject and I was sitting beside a priest and when you said the Christ in you asks you to live in that sense he said that's heresy, that's blasphemy blasphemy was the word that he used. Okay so all…
…I'm speaking with Joseph Campbell, a mythologist and author of the. We'll continue our conversation in one minute. Joseph, you mentioned Christ was crucified because he said I and the father were one. Could you elucidate on that? Well, the ultimate mystical…
…be depicted as atonement, as it is in the Biblical Tradition where we are atoned with the father, or as at one ment when Christ says I and the father are one the word atonement actually is made up of these two and it has these two different meanings.…
…other's food. Now the interesting thing is that with the Christian Tradition Christ's cross is called the tree of immortal life, holy root. Christ, as it were, went through that gate and he now hangs on that tree as the fruit of the tree himself, the…
…and take the bread which is Christ's Body and blood we are eating of the fruit of immortal life and thus achieving immortality. Christ is in exactly the same position, the same place as the buddha, who is the guide and opener of the way to the…
…John Gospel. As moses lifted the serpent in the desert to save men from the poison of the serpent, so the serpent Christ shall be lifted as a serpent. The philosophical formula illustrated by the cosmogonic cycle is that of the circulation of consciousness…
…be depicted as atonement, as it is in the Biblical Tradition where we are atoned with the father, or as at one ment, when Christ says I and the father are one. The word atonement actually is made up of these two and it has these two different…
…a precious symbol, full of import to be treasured and contemplated. Such a moment was that of the transfiguration of the Christ. From Matthew, Jesus taketh Peter, James and John his brother and bringeth them into an high mountain apart and was transfigured…
…servant to master. Oh lord you are the master, I am your servant. Tell me what to do I will. Krishna was to arjuna as Christ to the apostles. This is a higher form of religious readiness. To be worthy to be in this relationship to the god you must…
…of love is that of husband and wife, the spouse. This is the level of the nun, for example who is the bride of Christ but it's the level also of husband and wife in their attention and love for each other. Now here's this Indian Business of going…
…bind there. As they say, the illumination comes when you are least ready. I think we have this in our Christian Imagery too. Christ comes when you're not looking very often and you must be ready. There was something I remember reading in the abbe dimne…
…buddhahood, not the buddha. Consequently, for the Buddhist it doesn't matter whether the buddha actually lived or not. It's not like Christ. For the Christian it makes a difference whether Christ did live not for the Buddhist. The Buddhist whether he is a…
…it doesn't matter whether the buddha actually lived or not. It's not like Christ. For the Christian it makes a difference whether Christ did live not for the Buddhist. The Buddhist whether he is a mythological image or a fact, is a rendition of the…
…world. Creator and creature are not the same and to make that remark, I am. It is the basic blasphemy in the west. When Christ said I and the father are one he was crucified for exactly that. That was blasphemy. When the Great Sufi Mystic al halaj,…
…only a couple of years ago by birth from a Jewish mother and by honoring in one's life the covenant. Okay, next, the Christian. Christ is true god and true man. This in Christianity is regarded as a miracle. In the east this is the point that everybody…
…miracle. In the east this is the point that everybody must realize about himself. Now how does one become related to to Christ Christ, Christ through his Christ, through his humanity humanity is related is to related us to through us his through his…
…In the east this is the point that everybody must realize about himself. Now how does one become related to to Christ Christ, Christ through his Christ, through his humanity humanity is related is to related us to through us his through his divinity,…
…the east this is the point that everybody must realize about himself. Now how does one become related to to Christ Christ, Christ through his Christ, through his humanity humanity is related is to related us to through us his through his divinity, divinity…
…the way to achieve illumination. He goes from one teacher to another and there's a moment that is the counterpart of that of Christ going to John the baptist John the baptist the greatest prophet of the apocalyptic moment of his day, and Christ goes past…
…of that of Christ going to John the baptist John the baptist the greatest prophet of the apocalyptic moment of his day, and Christ goes past him into the solitude of the desert after John the baptist. Christ goes into the desert then is tempted by the…
…of the apocalyptic moment of his day, and Christ goes past him into the solitude of the desert after John the baptist. Christ goes into the desert then is tempted by the devil remember you and transcends those temptations and then comes back to teach.…
…year's festivals and the birth of the savior, the dawn of spring in March this coming month, we have the resurrection of Christ, Formerly the resurrection of adonis, also the exodus from bondage of Egypt. In the fall season, the rites of thinking of…
…After 12 000 years there came zarathustra, or Zoroaster the prophet of god. He was Gael Mart back again in perfection, as Christ is the second Adam. With him, goodness begins to triumph over darkness and ultimately, at the end of the world, there will…
…calamity of the upheaval that's to come. It is out of this moment, this notion of apocalyptic imminence, that Christianity emerged. Christ himself, if we read the gospels in relation to the dead sea scrolls is speaking this same language. John the baptist…
…I and divine love are one. And his disciple, halaj, a Great, Great man, went so far as to say: I am god. Now that was what Christ had said. Christ in a society that lived by the law and by the idea that god is not the world or in it, but its…
…are one. And his disciple, halaj, a Great, Great man, went so far as to say: I am god. Now that was what Christ had said. Christ in a society that lived by the law and by the idea that god is not the world or in it, but its governor. Christ in…
…in a society that lived by the law and by the idea that god is not the world or in it, but its governor. Christ in that society was crucified for this. Similarly, halaj. Halaj was crucified, but before his death halaj had said: this is a lovely image.…
…at the heart that the hands of the devotee touch the feet of god, and in the Catholic Tradition you've seen the figure of Christ, the sacred heart. It is at the level of the heart that the spiritual life begins. And the symbol to interpret the symbols…
…one in the flame and when halaj said I and my beloved are one, this was heresy in the orthodox tradition just as when Christ said I and my father are one this was heresy in the orthodox tradition. And as Christ was crucified for his blasphemy, so was…
…orthodox tradition just as when Christ said I and my father are one this was heresy in the orthodox tradition. And as Christ was crucified for his blasphemy, so was halaj. But halaj says: the orthodox crucifixion is actually the fulfillment of my will to…
…an x ray mirror that is showing you your inward nature, your permanent structure. Now, next, in the middle ages, the crucifix of Christ was called the tree of life immortal. It was equated with the second tree in the Garden. That in fact, was the great…
…cross was the answer to the tree, the first tree. The knowledge of good and evil is transcended in the tree of the cross Christ is the fruit of the second tree, and so he is, in Christian Terms, precisely the equivalent to the buddha seated under the…
…the fruit of the second tree, and so he is, in Christian Terms, precisely the equivalent to the buddha seated under the tree. Christ also says: come in. He passed through back into the Garden and there he is crucified, as we all are crucified when we…
…accent or what our senses see, the dispelling of the force of maya with the recognition I am that I am that one consciousness. Christ said I and the father are one. He said this mortal me and the immortal god are identical. We are that. I have…
…are that. I have experienced it. And now be you like unto me now. In our tradition what we have done has been to say that only Christ was true god and true man. But the lesson that can be read is that that true god may be in all of us. And this…
…have in the orient of their identity with that mystery but when they translate it into Biblical Language, you get something like what Christ said: I and the father are one. That was heresy he was crucified for saying that and everyone who has said that…
…a certain people. Birth as a member of that group relates you to god provided you keep his covenant in the Christian Tradition Christ is true god and true man. You orient everybody, everything. This is true god and true man. No mystery at all. But here…
…This is true god and true man. No mystery at all. But here we relate ourselves to god through our humanity and Christ relates us to god through his divinity. And how do we relate ourselves to Christ? Through membership in his community. The claims…
…to god through our humanity and Christ relates us to god through his divinity. And how do we relate ourselves to Christ? Through membership in his community. The claims of the community have here been greatly stressed. And now what's happened in our…
…this whole thing. So I thought well, this is exactly what is the opposite to what I've been giving my life studying. And when Christ says he who loses his life shall find it he gives you the clue. These five values named here are the values for which…
…the historical event occurred. In the Christian Tradition there's a very decisive problem in distinguishing between the sense of the term Christ and the sense of the term jesus. Jesus is a reference to a historical character. Christ is a reference to an…
…between the sense of the term Christ and the sense of the term jesus. Jesus is a reference to a historical character. Christ is a reference to an eternal principle, the son of god the second person of the blessed trinity, which is before and…
…a special force in our tradition. But the main point of the religion is not certainly that it was unique in the case of jesus Christ, but that this should have some sense in the effect on your own spirit and what it does to you. There is a wonderful…
…can now bring the same message to me, and the great mystic meister Eckhart states: it is of more worth to god that Christ should be born in the virgin soul than that Christ should have been born in bethlehem. Now this is a tremendously important point.…
…great mystic meister Eckhart states: it is of more worth to god that Christ should be born in the virgin soul than that Christ should have been born in bethlehem. Now this is a tremendously important point. Now, many of the images which in our religion…
…god has a covenant with a certain people and the relationship to god is through membership in that group. In the Christian Tradition, Christ is true god and true man which is regarded as a mystery here in India Everybody is true god and true man and…
…held in your mind as the image of god is what will there be experienced? Be it yahweh, shiva, Vishnu or the goddess, be it Christ or the trinity or the highest image of the buddha, any will be all right. And what beholds it? Is called the jiva, the…
…level of maya's domain. There's a lovely little madonna, a 15th century madonna in the Museum of Cluny in Paris. She sits with the Christ child on her arm and the globe of the universe in her left hand, and her chest can be opened as a cabinet. She…
…beyond death the eternal recurrence. The moon remains the high symbol of the dead and resurrecting god. Even in the Christian Image Christ is three days in the tomb, the moon is three days dark and the dating of Easter is always made in relation…
…for husband. This is the attitude in the Christian Tradition of the nun to jesus she wears the wedding ring, she's the bride of Christ and in the Indian Tradition it is the proper attitude of the wife to the husband he is her lord and in her service…
…and this is absolutely excruciating what he knows. That is the image that in Buddhism is called the bodhisattva. That is the image of Christ crucified. That is the image of Prometheus to the rock. That is the image of Loki tied to the rock this is the…
…god made man and they're not identical. In fact, the preaching of identity is the prime heresy in this tradition of ours. When Christ said I and the father are one he was crucified for that. When halaj, 900 years later, said the same thing in Islam:…
…And that is the only relationship to god that god himself has initiated and cherishes. And in the Christian Religion what is it? Christ is true god and true man. That's supposed to be a miracle here in the east that's true of everybody. So this is…
…are related to Christ's Humanity through his divinity he relates us to god. Well how do we get in relationship to Christ? Through a social order, through baptism, through membership in his church. Again a social situation. Our whole introduction to the…
…the love of husband for wife and wife for husband. This is the way of the nun who wears the ring of her devotion to Christ It's the way of husband and wife or it probably should be. And then what would the fifth and highest form be? The highest form…
…galahad story on the day of pentecost as the coming of the holy ghost so that the knight himself is the incarnation of the Christ power, just as each one of us in the Buddhist Tradition is the incarnation of buddha consciousness. And we have to come to…
…The all came forth from me. Split the stick, I am there. Lift the stone, I am there. Jesus is there speaking as the Christ, not as the historical person, but as the incarnation, and each of us must know himself to be an incarnation. This is the sense…
…Oh I'm just spiritual. In some ashrams you notice this anything as crude as a human being. This is the third temptation of Christ after he had renounced the economics of turning the stones into bread and the politics of worship me and you can rule the…
…everybody, particularly those who are bearing children at that time. I don't know why they were picked out for this, but then Christ would come in the clouds of glory and everything would be well exciting for a while, but then perfectly beautiful forever.…
…of scholars, published by hopper, called the gospel according to Thomas. And there at the end of the gospel, the disciples ask Christ: when will the kingdom come? And Christ answers: the kingdom will not come by expectation. The kingdom of the father is…
…the gospel according to Thomas. And there at the end of the gospel, the disciples ask Christ: when will the kingdom come? And Christ answers: the kingdom will not come by expectation. The kingdom of the father is spread upon the earth and men do not see…
…out. Each must save himself. Jesus may be taken as a model for your own you know imitatio christi, own imitation of Christ but what is the imitation of Christ going out and getting yourself crucified? No, opening your life to the spiritual dimension and…
…may be taken as a model for your own you know imitatio christi, own imitation of Christ but what is the imitation of Christ going out and getting yourself crucified? No, opening your life to the spiritual dimension and live in and for the spirit rather…
…histoire del saint graal, the history of the holy grail. And now that history. The notion is that after the burial of Christ, Joseph of Arimathea, in whose tomb Christ was entombed, was thrown into prison by the Jews. Because they resented his taking care…
…of the holy grail. And now that history. The notion is that after the burial of Christ, Joseph of Arimathea, in whose tomb Christ was entombed, was thrown into prison by the Jews. Because they resented his taking care of the body of Christ. Now he's in…
…in whose tomb Christ was entombed, was thrown into prison by the Jews. Because they resented his taking care of the body of Christ. Now he's in jail and through the wall comes Christ himself, the risen Christ. And the risen Christ presents to Joseph of…
…by the Jews. Because they resented his taking care of the body of Christ. Now he's in jail and through the wall comes Christ himself, the risen Christ. And the risen Christ presents to Joseph of Arimathea the implements of the passion the lance that had…
…they resented his taking care of the body of Christ. Now he's in jail and through the wall comes Christ himself, the risen Christ. And the risen Christ presents to Joseph of Arimathea the implements of the passion the lance that had pierced his side, the…
…the mass who elevated the host and an old priest he almost fell down because the host then became the body of the young Christ was more than he could hold and Lancelot, Compassionately was moved to go into the room and rescue him and he was struck…
…man. Through our humanity we are related to Christ through his godhood he relates us to god but how do we get related to Christ? Through membership in his church. The unbaptized are out. In Islam, it is the koran as the word the ultimate word of god.…
…Now in the Medieval Christian Tradition the cross is called rude holy. It is identified with that second tree in the Garden Allegorically, Christ is the fruit of that tree. In the communion meal where we eat Christ we are eating the fruit of eternal life…
…with that second tree in the Garden Allegorically, Christ is the fruit of that tree. In the communion meal where we eat Christ we are eating the fruit of eternal life and eating exactly the fruit of that tree and are experiencing eternal life. And…
…eat Christ we are eating the fruit of eternal life and eating exactly the fruit of that tree and are experiencing eternal life. And Christ is celebrated in the middle ages in a kind of European way as the hero who broke past the gate and there are…
…are hymns saying praise to thee who broke past the gate and opened again the golden way to the tree of Paradise. So Christ on the cross, buddha on the tree, are equivalent figures. These are the same myth, the moment represented in the crucifixion, where…
…if you will bow to me and any man who will bow to the devil can have a pretty good political career and Christ rejects this as well, thus rejecting the economic, political approach to spiritual life. Finally, when you have done that, when you have…
…lofty neck and the eyes just a little above it all and often they tripped. What was this temptation? So the devil then takes Christ Up onto the pinnacle of the temple and he says: cast yourself down and god himself will see to it that you don't even…
…temple and he says: cast yourself down and god himself will see to it that you don't even hurt your foot. And Christ said: thou shalt not tempt the lord thy god so don't identify yourself too exuberantly with your spiritual character. Temperance: here but…
…AD, a century after Rabia, we have the culminating Sufi Statement: I and my beloved are one, and for that he was crucified, as Christ was crucified for saying the same thing. And from then on the Sufi Tradition had to go into hiding, so to say and…
…cross and in any moment of love. Now the buddha idea of compassion is comparable to the Christian idea of agape or charity. When Christ says, love thy neighbors thyself, or when he says, beyond that and this I take to be the high word of the Christian…
…their love. The bed is the altar. The altar is a bed. Augustine himself brought forth that image. It is on the altar that Christ is brought into the bread and wine by the miraculous words of the priest: hoc est enum corpus meum this is my body. Christ…
…Christ is brought into the bread and wine by the miraculous words of the priest: hoc est enum corpus meum this is my body. Christ comes to birth there on the altar. So the altar is the bed of Christ's Birth and Christ is sacrificed right on that…
…enum corpus meum this is my body. Christ comes to birth there on the altar. So the altar is the bed of Christ's Birth and Christ is sacrificed right on that altar. So the altar is the calvary cross of the sacrifice it is both the birth and the death…
…the blessed virgin that she is to be the mother of god and on a beam from the sky there comes the little child Christ to his mother, this tiny little mannequin, and on his shoulder he's bearing the cross. The idea is that Christ coming into the world…
…the little child Christ to his mother, this tiny little mannequin, and on his shoulder he's bearing the cross. The idea is that Christ coming into the world assuming life at all was already the acceptance of the agni, the terror joy of life which is the…
…century when right beside you anywhere you turn is a little church where the sacrifice of the mass is celebrated every morning, Christ himself on the altar, you there to receive communion. Why the quest for the grail? The answer is that the priest was…
…the grail and lance of the last supper and crucifixion having been brought to England by Joseph of Arimathea, in whose tomb Christ was buried is a monastic legend. And the hero of the grail of the monastic tradition is another hero entirely: galahad.…
…from the old testament that means mountain of testimony and it is taken that that knight is a mountain of testimony to Christ. The whole tradition of the virgin knight as the grail knight belongs to a cistercian monastic line, whereas the line of wolfram…
…in so many mythologies the mind dominating life is really satan, and life speaking through the mind is the power of the Christ. That's a basic thing. It's the buddha theme as well. We have things like wanting to control our environment. Well our…
…of time into eternity. And in participating in this you are giving yourself to the Christ and what the Christ is is the Christ in us namely the knower of the father and so understanding it in terms of its, what may be called mythological or spiritual…
…in terms of its, what may be called mythological or spiritual sense, opens the image, and then it doesn't matter I mean whether Christ lived or not. Actually there's no doubt about it that jesus lived, that he was crucified, that he died and was buried…
…when Joseph was 80 years of age. We began with a question about a quotation from the new testament. Joseph you mentioned Christ was crucified because he said I and the father were one. Could you elucidate on that? Well the ultimate mystical experience is…
…emerged. But then as an import somewhere else all the images have been alien do you see what I mean? And to find the Christ power here is the goal of such a meditation. In some sense we have the native American Tradition being kind of the mythic image…
…me give a lecture a long time back where I had the indiscretion to say to a group of people: bring forth the Christ in yourself, that Christ power which is buddha power all beings are buddha beings, all people are Christ people. And she said there…
…a long time back where I had the indiscretion to say to a group of people: bring forth the Christ in yourself, that Christ power which is buddha power all beings are buddha beings, all people are Christ people. And she said there was a priest sitting…
…of people: bring forth the Christ in yourself, that Christ power which is buddha power all beings are buddha beings, all people are Christ people. And she said there was a priest sitting beside me and he said that is blasphemy. Now when you have a…
…to Thomas, where the Christ the words are put in the mouth of Christ or perhaps they came out of the mouth of Christ. We don't know about these gospels how much they really reproduce what was actually said. But here jesus says: he who drinks of…
…of my mouth will become as I am, and I am he. Now that's gnosticism, that's Buddhism We're all buddha beings, we're all Christ Beings and the difference between you and me and the buddha is that he knew how to live in terms of buddha consciousness…
…that he knew how to live in terms of buddha consciousness instead of his own individual interests. And living in Christ is the comparable thing using the Christian Terminology. It's fascinating to compare the language of Christian and Buddhist teachings and…
…was one of the centers from which Christianity took its theology you realize this inevitably was a relationship and I see the Christ when you look at the doctrine of the Christ from the standpoint of a Buddhist. The Christ is a bodhisattva the one…
…took its theology you realize this inevitably was a relationship and I see the Christ when you look at the doctrine of the Christ from the standpoint of a Buddhist. The Christ is a bodhisattva the one who comes with love to the world to participate in…
…was a relationship and I see the Christ when you look at the doctrine of the Christ from the standpoint of a Buddhist. The Christ is a bodhisattva the one who comes with love to the world to participate in the sours of the world gladly. You know that…
…world to participate in the sours of the world gladly. You know that wonderful saying in the epistle to the philippians of Paul for Christ did not think god had something to be clung to but let go and took incarnation as man even as the servant of man…
…the suffering of jesus. There's another kind of crucifix which is called Christ's Triumphant, where he's there eyes open and Augustine says Christ went to the cross as a bridegroom to his bride and there is the imitation of Christ Moving into life with…
…he's there eyes open and Augustine says Christ went to the cross as a bridegroom to his bride and there is the imitation of Christ Moving into life with that zeal for it where suffering is only part of what life is. All life is suffering, but you're…
…to each other in time and place had analogous myths. Why that's what I'm interested in. Well, why do we have the idea of Christ coming as the second coming? This is a standard motif in mythologies of the one who has died coming back, and King Arthur…
…I round out that South American Enigmas a bit do you know the character tunapa or tanupa, the one who so much resembles Christ who walked through the Andes according to the stories that they say were there when the spaniards arrived? Now they say that…
…Now I will say that, for instance when jesus there's the big question in early Christianity as to whether Mary gave birth to a Christ or just to jesus, and did the Christ Principle then descend upon him if the second is the case at the time of the…
…jesus there's the big question in early Christianity as to whether Mary gave birth to a Christ or just to jesus, and did the Christ Principle then descend upon him if the second is the case at the time of the baptism, when the heavens opened and the…
…supernatural being, that there could only possibly be a handful of people in hell. There is a line in the Bible, though where Christ is quoted I think it's in Matthew, Something about eternal hell fires that such a thing does exist. Do you remember that…
…remember that passage. No, it's still given its manner of perspective of how one looks at it as to what it is. Well also what Christ said is not always, or jesus said is not always easy to be sure about because he spoke aramaic and the texts are in…
…and that the doctrine must not be mistaken and concretized and say: this is exactly it it's not Jesus who's speaking but jesus Christ. The Christ is the second person of the blessed trinity which is the knower of god the father and that's what's within…
…the doctrine must not be mistaken and concretized and say: this is exactly it it's not Jesus who's speaking but jesus Christ. The Christ is the second person of the blessed trinity which is the knower of god the father and that's what's within us to be…
…the knower of god the father and that's what's within us to be brought to life. As Paul could say, I live not in I but Christ in me, and so also Krishna can live in one. The trinity is another symbol that we see all over as well isn't it? Well it…
…Central mountain is the same as the immovable spot under which the buddha sat. The central mountain is the same as the cross of Christ on the mount of the skull calvary. This is the same thing and it's right in yourself that's where it is. This is…
…point in so many mythologies. The mind dominating life is really satan and life speaking through the mind is the power of the Christ. That's a basic thing it's the buddha theme as well. And we have things like wanting to control our environment. Well our…
…I think is what's come to light with the gospel according to Thomas, where Christ the words are put in the mouth of Christ or perhaps they came out of the mouth of Christ. We don't know about these gospels how much they really reproduce what was…
…according to Thomas, where Christ the words are put in the mouth of Christ or perhaps they came out of the mouth of Christ. We don't know about these gospels how much they really reproduce what was actually said. But here jesus says: he who drinks of…
…of my mouth will become as I am and I am he now that's gnosticism, that's Buddhism. We're all buddha beings, we're all Christ Beings and the difference between you and me and the buddha is that he knew how to live in terms of buddha consciousness…
…he knew how to live in terms of buddha consciousness instead of his own little individual interests. And living in Christ is the comparable thing using the terminology. It's fascinating to compare the language of Christian and Buddhist teachings and when…
…was one of the centers from which Christianity took its theology, you realize this inevitably was a relationship. And I see the Christ when you look at the doctrine of the Christ from the standpoint of a Buddhist. The Christ is a bodhisattva, the one…
…took its theology, you realize this inevitably was a relationship. And I see the Christ when you look at the doctrine of the Christ from the standpoint of a Buddhist. The Christ is a bodhisattva, the one who comes with love to the world to participate…
…was a relationship. And I see the Christ when you look at the doctrine of the Christ from the standpoint of a Buddhist. The Christ is a bodhisattva, the one who comes with love to the world to participate in the sows of the world gladly. You know that…
…world to participate in the sows of the world gladly. You know that wonderful saying in the epistle to the philippians of Paul for Christ did not think godhood something to be clung to but let go and took incarnation as man even as the servant of man,…
…the suffering of jesus. There's another kind of crucifix which is called Christ's Triumphant, where he's there, eyes open, and Augustine says: Christ went to the cross as a bride groomed to his bride, and there is the imitation of Christ Moving into life…
…there, eyes open, and Augustine says: Christ went to the cross as a bride groomed to his bride, and there is the imitation of Christ Moving into life with that zeal for it where suffering is only part of what life is all life is suffering, but you're…
…his message to Mary. Of what use, Gabriel, your lesson to Mary if you cannot now give the same message to me, namely that Christ is to be born in my heart? So what we have is a case of man institutionalizing himself away from the wisdom in his…
…You see we have it in the old aeon of Alexandria and Egypt we have it in mithrasim and we have it in the Christ. Now these four figures that appear in the west part of Chartres, representing the four gospelers the four signs of the zodiac, and these…
…of the things you said that one of the things you found there was that the business of all of mankind breaking into Christ Consciousness is pictorially found there. That was what I was really getting at at the next stage not just the one figure. Maybe…
…you're saying now, what is it that? The next stage where many of us, many men in the world break into that area of Christ Consciousness is found secretly written into the facade there. Well let me just say this then to that: about the year 1200 and…
…one of the buddha not the historical buddha, but mahavirachana buddha, the radiant solar buddha who would be the counterpart to the Christ of, not the historical jesus but the Christ of the apocalypse, you might say. This was in a temple treasury in…
…but mahavirachana buddha, the radiant solar buddha who would be the counterpart to the Christ of, not the historical jesus but the Christ of the apocalypse, you might say. This was in a temple treasury in Japan. In Kyoto, the daigoji temple, and the abbot…
…say about that myth? That's something that seems to be sort of always with us in this Biblical Tradition. Precisely at the time of Christ there was a great vogue of this thing. This is what the dead sea scrolls are all about, that the end of the world…
…you know practice some kind of orderly discipline and survive this thing. And this was very much in the wind at the time of Christ, of jesus, John the baptist is baptizing only a few miles from the qumran community of the dead sea scrolls and they I…
…to all this kind of thing. Jesus comes out of that ambience. In fact, at least in many of the passages of the gospels, Christ is predicting this very thing and he says I think it's one of the mark 14 or something like that um, this generation will…
…But the image of god raising the entire crucifix just seems to take the edge off the downbeat image of the crucified Christ. Yes and the crucifixion shouldn't be a downbeat. No it shouldn't. I know in some cases I've seen the Christ Image raised…
…of the crucified Christ. Yes and the crucifixion shouldn't be a downbeat. No it shouldn't. I know in some cases I've seen the Christ Image raised away from the cross because it's going to the father and we all advance in spiritual life through our daily…
…st John of the cross, which is an uplifting one, and I like personally as far as crucifixes go, those that are called Christ in triumph where he's there eyes open in victory on the cross, because st Augustine says somewhere that jesus went to the cross…
…please? Well I see Prometheus as a kind of basic European One could call redeemer figure, just as jesus as it were. The Christ brought redemption from the hoarder of redemption, you know the one who would not yield it. So Prometheus brought the fire of…
…the hoarder of the fire. And this is a basic motif that one finds in many, many fields. But I've made the Christ Comparison intentionally, because Christ ends up crucified and so also Prometheus pinned to the rock there. And when one performs a great…
…the fire. And this is a basic motif that one finds in many, many fields. But I've made the Christ Comparison intentionally, because Christ ends up crucified and so also Prometheus pinned to the rock there. And when one performs a great hero act of this…
…is the point that everybody must realize about himself. Now how does one become related to to Christ Christ, Christ through his Christ, through his humanity humanity is related is to related us to through us his through his divinity, divinity he relates us…
…of us. And this comes out in a word of the great mystic meister Eckhart when he says: it is of more worth to god that Christ should be born in the virgin pure soul than that Christ should have been born in bethlehem. That is to say, it is of more…
…mystic meister Eckhart when he says: it is of more worth to god that Christ should be born in the virgin pure soul than that Christ should have been born in bethlehem. That is to say, it is of more importance that Christ should be born in each one of…
…in the virgin pure soul than that Christ should have been born in bethlehem. That is to say, it is of more importance that Christ should be born in each one of us here now than that he had been born historically. In other words, the accent is shifted…
…other words, the accent is shifted to the psychological and we have it in Paul when he says: I live now not I but Christ in me. And so we have also the wonderful words of Silesius, Angelus Silesius, of what good, Gabriel, your message to Mary if you…
…normal biological birth. That's why the whole thing is completely confused when one thinks of the problem of a virgin birth as biological. Christ as one born of a virgin simply means that he is the embodiment, the image, the model for one who is going…
…protection. The first law of the spirit is compassion, and that compassion might be said to be the virgin birth within you of the Christ power of which we are all inflections. And so it is in the grail romance there not your role in society, just in…
…through the word and down on that beam of light comes the holy ghost in the form of a dove, followed by the little Christ Mannequin with his cross on his shoulder. And this reminds me of this word of Paul from one of the earliest christological texts…
…we have it's in philippians 2, 5 to 8. You will recognize it I'm sure. Have this mind among yourselves then, which you have in Christ Jesus who, though he was in the form of god, did not count equality with god a thing to be held to, but emptied…
…form, he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on the cross. And so what would the virgin birth be of Christ in ourselves it would be our own spirit affirming willingly that way the life of the spirit in the world with all its…
…old Biblical idea. How do you become a jew by being born of a Jewish mother? That's pretty exclusive. The Christian Tradition Christ, Unique incarnation, true god and true man this we regard as a unique miracle in the orient everyone has to realize that…
…or organ of a larger body. And when you study Christianity as it comes down to us, we are members of the body of Christ and all that kind of thing interpreted in terms of a certain group of people. But the Christ is the second person, the blessed…
…members of the body of Christ and all that kind of thing interpreted in terms of a certain group of people. But the Christ is the second person, the blessed trinity of yesterday, today and tomorrow and of no certain individual group of people. It is…
…romance is that the grail hero whether it is Percival or galahad is the incarnation of the holy spirit and equivalent to Christ. This is Europe claiming the Christian Imagery for itself. So that's what we've come into here. The arthurian romances are a…
…was the inspirations of the grail romance, that the individual in his own individual life should become the vessel and vehicle of the Christ. Paul said: I live now not I but Christ in me. Well that's pretty good. In Buddhism we know that we are all…
…the individual in his own individual life should become the vessel and vehicle of the Christ. Paul said: I live now not I but Christ in me. Well that's pretty good. In Buddhism we know that we are all buddha beings and just don't know about it. We…
…at the South Pole among the pygmies down there. All these various ideas but here's the notion and you recognize the second coming of Christ in this too Arthur is going to return. You have this idea of the dissolution of life and the world as it is by…
…into mystical terminology it is: a savior is coming who's going to wake us up to our buddha consciousness, you might say to our Christ Consciousness to that to the knowledge of the kingdom of the father that is spread upon the earth and men do not see…
…care of the body of Christ. Now he's in jail and through the wall comes Christ himself, the risen Christ. And the risen Christ presents to Joseph of Arimathea the implements of the passion the lance that had pierced his side, the lance of Longinus, the…
…go into the church of st Peter. It's a popular church you might say, but the only people who could see the risen Christ were people of a certain spiritual format, people of a certain spiritual achievement and magnitude. And so also the castle of the…