Originally aired as Salon #231 of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. A recording of one of the last conversations Bruce Damer and Terence McKenna had at Terence's house, exploring virtual worlds and the future of consciousness.

This 58-minute dharma talk is the second half of a talk offered on November 17, 2005 at the New Hamlet, Plum Village. Thay continues a discussion from the earlier dharma talk. When we make a statement in Buddhism, it should help to transform and to present the truth.

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