Ben, Russell Sbriglia and Matt McManus interviewed Slavoj Žižek about his debate with Jordan Peterson. Producer Forrest joined at the end to ask some audience questions.

Originally aired as Salon #472 of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. "An interesting thing about drugs is often, when a new drug is discovered, it takes a long time to figure out how do you do it." "In 1948, television was introduced, and millions and millions of people lead larval, low-awareness, warehoused lives."

Originally aired as Salon #359 of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. "History has been the pursuit of a false god, the god of stability, the god of permanence, the god of the unchanging, and we've become just neurotic on this subject." "What's being said here is reclaim experience."

Terence McKenna "We have the concept of the ideal city in the ancient world, most especially the ideal city of Plato's Republic. So casually we might call that Utopian fantasy. Although Plato did try to actually realize it in the political organization of a particular city. […]