Originally aired as Salon #504 of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. "I tend to think that there is a kind of unconscious racism in the suppression of the idea that the origin of not high culture but of humanism itself is in Africa." "The psychedelic experience is about what is real."

"The thing about [ayahuasca] is that you always come out of it in great shape. Ken's right, you feel better the day after than if you hadn't done it. What [other] drug can you say that of?" "I think this ayahuasca thing..."

"I tend to think that there is a kind of unconscious racism in the suppression of the idea that the origin of not high culture but of humanism itself is in Africa." "[The psychedelic experience] is about what is real, not what..."