Dan replays two interviews Chuck did with the late, great David Graeber, the first about his book on bureaucracy "The Utopia of Rules," the second on the book "Bullshit Jobs." https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/the-utopia-of-rules/ https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Bullshit-Jobs/David-Graeber/978

Anthropologist David Graeber explores the bureaucratic dimension that rules our lives, takes our money, and stretches between the public and private, the right and the left, between capitalism and whatever comes next. David's new book is The Utopia of Rules: On Technology, Stupidity, and the Secret

The lecture took place at University of Ghent, Belgium organized by the Students and freethinkers collective as part of the TSG ‘s Antagonistic Festival.