Anthropologist David Graeber's three interviews on This Is Hell!, talking about fun, bureaucracy and bullshit jobs. RIP David.

Dan replays two interviews Chuck did with the late, great David Graeber, the first about his book on bureaucracy "The Utopia of Rules," the second on the book "Bullshit Jobs." https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/the-utopia-of-rules/ https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Bullshit-Jobs/David-Graeber/978

Anthropologist David Graeber explores the bureaucratic dimension that rules our lives, takes our money, and stretches between the public and private, the right and the left, between capitalism and whatever comes next. David's new book is The Utopia of Rules: On Technology, Stupidity, and the Secret