Originally aired as Salon #442 of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. "One of the reasons I'm so fond of psychedelics is because they transcend rhetoric." "Meditation and all these other things I take to be co-options organized by beastly hordes of priests."

"One of the reasons I'm so fond of psychedelics is because they transcend rhetoric." "Meditation and all these other things I take to be co-options organized by beastly hoards of priests." "One of the most uncool things you can say to another…

Five-and-a-half-hour Esalen workshop from December 1994. Catalogued by the Terence McKenna Archives bibliography under two titles -- "Eros, Chaos, and Meaning's Edge" and "Hot Concepts and Melting Edges" -- and previously held here under the fan-assigned names "This Counts, Somehow it Matters" and "A Higher Dimensional Section of Reality". Identified by audio cross-correlation against two independent copies of the same recording.