Originally aired as Salon #700 of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. A question-and-answer format that leads Terence McKenna into telling some of the old stories from his early talks — many of which were dropped from his later workshops.

Originally aired as Salon #442 of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. "One of the reasons I'm so fond of psychedelics is because they transcend rhetoric." "Meditation and all these other things I take to be co-options organized by beastly hordes of priests."