Originally aired as Salon #567 of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. Recorded April 1995. "I take psychedelics to be the catalysis of language." "This great period of creativity that we're living through now in the sciences, in the arts, in the implementation of exotic technology…"

Originally aired as Salon #463 of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. "I describe myself as a tall man with a cheap watch." "If reality is code, then it can be hacked in some way that we had not suspected before." "In a sense, the Italian Renaissance is the medieval lead turned to the…"

Robert Anton Wilson and Richard Bandler at Imperial College London — distinct from the 2000 Bandler Seminar trilogy.