…between the Eastern philosophy and modern psychological technology. And he's still at it today. And I'd like to introduce you, please, Tim. It's amazing looking out their faces and bodies and suddenly moves into that mural, and that mural is kind of a...…

…I'm with you. I'm here with you. I'm having so much fun! Woo! Idiot! I think that's going to be a very modern problem, Tim. Cataclysm. It's always been that way. Well, what do you think, though? Yes. Yes. Did I answer you? Me too. It feels quicker.…

He's also my dad, Timothy Larry. Well, I don't know any jokes. No, but. You should be here in a second. Again. Tim? Well, um... I guess he's coming. Thank you. Well, we got a bunch of friends assembled here tonight. That's good. You know, I travel a…

…seen it. It was done brilliantly by Electronic Arts and Electronic Arts has got some very sophisticated people down there, Stuart Bond and Tim Mott and a lot of fine people. Mind Mirror is still out there. It was really a pioneer project. I'm very proud…

…stem whining and kicking ass at the CIA and all that. Then Hunter got up there. Hunter's kind of mumbling. He said to me, hey, Tim, has Tony come? I said, what? Tony, you know, Tony. Well, I don't know. He said, well, Go outside and see if Tony's in…

…that we borrowed some of the abstract concepts from various other publications. that you and your colleagues look for. My question, Tim, is just, assuming you have read Castaneda's books, what is your personal opinion of his work? Well, yes, I have. Wait…

…the crowd, and we are on the verge of something wonderful, and it's an honor for me to be here, and thank you very much. Tim? Tim! Tim! Tim! Stay on stage, we're doing Q&A, so I'll be calling everybody else out. Okay. Now, I'd like to call up our…

…and we are on the verge of something wonderful, and it's an honor for me to be here, and thank you very much. Tim? Tim! Tim! Tim! Stay on stage, we're doing Q&A, so I'll be calling everybody else out. Okay. Now, I'd like to call up our previous…

…we are on the verge of something wonderful, and it's an honor for me to be here, and thank you very much. Tim? Tim! Tim! Tim! Stay on stage, we're doing Q&A, so I'll be calling everybody else out. Okay. Now, I'd like to call up our previous speakers…

…are on the verge of something wonderful, and it's an honor for me to be here, and thank you very much. Tim? Tim! Tim! Tim! Stay on stage, we're doing Q&A, so I'll be calling everybody else out. Okay. Now, I'd like to call up our previous speakers for…

…previous speakers for the evening, Dr. Robert Anton Wilson, Myron Kruger, and Eric Gullickson. Now, before... Oh, okay, sure. Now, well, Tim, can you hang on for just one second? After all, you got... While we're handling the question and answers, what…

…live. I gave him a hundred, a tablet of 500, a bottle of 500 tablets. I remember that. Didn't you say that you introduced Tim to CO2? Yes, that's right! That's right! right he dragged us all around boston with these tanks and we had people loading in…

…been able to do that. What was your point, sir? About the Ayatollah? I still haven't been able to levitate that yet. Tim said that he was quite successful achieving his goals. I think he's a little presumptuous. Who's got my goals? I must determine…

…the scenario had been played as you'd like. Well, I don't put as high a stock on pleasure, although I enjoy it, as Tim does. I would hope that increased human wisdom might have been an appropriate goal. Increased human humaneness This I don't quite see…

…I don't remember it. Roughly something like that. And you were right. I don't know whether I was right, now come to think of it. Tim, you know, you and I had an agreement once, too, the last time I saw you. You know, we have our differences of view,…

…were, what Gerald Hurd would have said, you were on the cutting edge of things, and that's probably where you belong. Timothy, well, Tim, I don't think I ever congratulated you on writing one of the best escape books. I don't know if everyone here has…

…that Walt Whitman claimed to be transported. I never met Whitman. I don't know if he really went out like that, but I know Tim did. Tim could look at a piece of grass and get absolutely zonked, whether he was on drugs or not. Timothy changed my whole…

…Whitman claimed to be transported. I never met Whitman. I don't know if he really went out like that, but I know Tim did. Tim could look at a piece of grass and get absolutely zonked, whether he was on drugs or not. Timothy changed my whole attitude…

…of these issues so why the hell trust them when you're going When you're going through something as delicate as the dying process. Tim escaped from the AMA and navigated death with a beauty, a grace and a humor that was like a cross between the best…

…settle to the level of your consciousness. You can arrange your own consciousness. We don't have to be sheep. I remember a speech Tim gave around 69 in which he said, the trouble with this whole culture is that shepherd metaphor. The Lord is my shepherd.…

…one of my fondest dreams, and treasuring love and children. I wrote a little something here for him for the paper last week about Tim being an aberrant master of his own time and fate. He looked death in the face and chuckled more often than not. An…

…tell you what a zipper is like. Now, ladies and gentlemen, throw away your buttons because we've got... Well, how does it work, Dr. Tim? Well, it's got these claws and teeth that come together. You want me to put that on my britches? I mean, really? I…

…will tell you the truth. You see, it's just like the evening news. Only it's interactive, unlike the evening news. It's what Tim thinks the evening news should be. Everything should be interactive, I agree. Now this game is interactive. You not only get…

…not only given at one time. Let me rephrase that. Do you think the sentence was put on you extra tough because you are Tim Larry? First of all, I don't think that anyone should go to prison for the possession of marijuana. So it's unfair for everybody.…

…and have a Mexican Army protect us. Because after all, Mexico claimed us. Come on in. Do you have a place to sit? But Tim, don't you think that... it might be a mistake to have the Defense Department at all, because why not just let LA be invaded?…

…other over because what they had in common was an awareness of the bullshit in the country. This kind of chapter that Tim was mentioning before about that the media doesn't seem to be talking about how absurd the political campaign is, you know, that…

…Listen, talk about blasphemy. The average American citizen doesn't know what really went on with Stalin or with L.E.J. Or even with J.F.K. Tim and I were at a comedy convention in Las Vegas a couple of months ago And there were 64 comedians in three…

…You can probably smell my dog. It has beautiful eyes. I have a golden retriever for about 12 years. I want to thank you, Tim, for that article you just gave us. I'm Marion Morris. You talked with Oberon recently. I had a green egg. You gave us your…

…and that old Keezy's there. You know, he slept on the bus all night. We've got to go to that thing. Yeah. You know that, Tim? That's a way on the way anyway. Absolutely. Did you know Keezy slept on the bus all night? I know that. And besides that,…

…was good, wasn't it? That was one of the best pieces of cookie I've ever eaten in decades. We were all in bed there, Tim. Obie and AJ and me and... Fall asleep. We're all sleeping together. All of a sudden, there was this noise. I started snoring. And…

…this. Pleasure, pleasure. All right, good. Sweet. I'll take one of this. DM8. DM8. Sweet. Go on in the back. Thanks a lot, Tim. All right. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Oh, can I see that? That's cool. Is this a video? Yep. Upboard, Jim.…

…I still make fun of that. It would be a lot simpler for me if so many people didn't run out there taking LHV. Tim, what do you think your largest contribution to history has been? What do you think your largest contribution has been? Getting a Chico.…

…moving in groups together, give it. And there's no God-given obligation on our part to blindly accept the laws of the state. Tim came to Harvard, which I suppose is the most crucial nodal point in any discipline in American academia, and he blew it…

…Yes, I'm a hope seller. But my hope is scientific hope. It's based upon projections from NASA. But what do you do about it, Tim? Well, I go around. I give about 40 college lectures a year. I'm on radio talk shows. I write. I've got two books coming…

…scene, man. Rob? I mean, you're Timothy Leary. Tune in, turn on, and drop out. Man, you are one hemp cat. What? I mean, come on, Tim. This is our show about the 60s. I mean, you were the guru of peace and love. Well, grow up. We were young then and…

…is bigger than his brain, or his brain bigger than his heart, or maybe something else, I don't know. Yeah, it's such a joy. Tim has a favorite. Your favorite Irish song. Oh, yeah. I hear the wearing of the green. The wearing of the green. Oh, daddy…

…trying to create unity and common... That's very interesting that you would have that interest that far back. So who turned on Tim? I thought Barron did in Mexico. Yeah, but he's thinking he was very influenced by these discussions, and when he came back,…

…wild trip. Wild trip. It's very wild here. So a sudden up and down? Oh, and then the whole barrage. You know what happened to me? Tim injected it when it came in. I said, you want to try this? And I said, sure, I don't care. And he had two visiting…

…I can remember it vividly. And I thought, I'm going to die and I'm going to be this big fat corpse in the meditation room. Tim is going to be so embarrassed. And it's going to be such a bummer. AND THEN SOMETHING SAID, WHY NOT SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO…

…about a week, you know. Hello, welcome to the house. So you can either scroll down and look at the instructions. You can email Tim right from here. You can email us right from here. Is that written in Japanese there? No, but Chris just added this from…

…the reason that drugs are today, as we're very worried sets of nuclear explosions of hysteria in so many people's minds. Yes, Robert? Tim, I don't want to bring this down, but I'd like to get back to the question of your depression when you mentioned it…

…had their lives totally devastated by it. Absolutely, and that's where good drug education would come in. I'm not afraid to cut you off, Tim. I'm afraid to cut some people off from what I've seen in the movies, but not you. Let me hold on here and go…

…tell you the truth. You see, it's just like the evening news. I mean, it's interactive, unlike the evening news. It's what Tim thinks the evening news should be. Everything should be interactive. I agree. Now, this game is interactive. You not only get…

…that you've kept in mind. It's actually a more psychedelic celebration than the one that you've done. And similarly, I think that Tim did a talk, and then they had a slide, and still there's a whole group of visualized problems that are happening. a…

…least a definition of himself in a very powerful model role perhaps martyr perhaps not but a very strong role Tim's letter, Tim walking out of jail, felt to me, knowing Timothy, like an exquisitely pure act. Done beautifully. It was awesome that the…

…of the person reading the letter. But that also is a function of the person writing it, you see. In other words, whether Tim adopts karma for advocating violence is a function of Tim's attachment when he writes the letter. And if Tim isn't attached, the…

…words, whether Tim adopts karma for advocating violence is a function of Tim's attachment when he writes the letter. And if Tim isn't attached, the letter doesn't make you violent. It's much more subtle, the way the whole thing works, about vibrations of…

…when I did the book with Sidney Cohen, it was really that transformation for me. Uh-huh. I see. So in a way, and then when Tim and I got back together again in 67, he said, why don't we join forces again? I said, Tim, we're finished. We've done the…

…way, and then when Tim and I got back together again in 67, he said, why don't we join forces again? I said, Tim, we're finished. We've done the thing. Our karma is completed. We don't have to do it anymore. Well, nonetheless, even though you described…

There was one time in the 60s when Tim and I were working together, when I took psilocybin with Madison Presnell. Madison Presnell was a black psychiatrist. He was our doctor in residence. And Madison and I took psychedelics. And I grew up in Newton. And…

…compete with his dialogues with Gordon Liddy. It's a great minuet, I'll tell you. I mean, it's unbelievable when you think about it. Tim gets busted by, is this stealing your material? Tim gets busted by Gordon Liddy. Liddy ends up in the White House. I…

…great minuet, I'll tell you. I mean, it's unbelievable when you think about it. Tim gets busted by, is this stealing your material? Tim gets busted by Gordon Liddy. Liddy ends up in the White House. I mean, busting Nixon. Tim and Liddy both are in jail.…

…by, is this stealing your material? Tim gets busted by Gordon Liddy. Liddy ends up in the White House. I mean, busting Nixon. Tim and Liddy both are in jail. Tim and Liddy both end up with the same lecture agent. One creative thought and there's a…

…Tim gets busted by Gordon Liddy. Liddy ends up in the White House. I mean, busting Nixon. Tim and Liddy both are in jail. Tim and Liddy both end up with the same lecture agent. One creative thought and there's a whole year of Liddy versus Larry. Liddy…

…like that. Looks like it's still going okay. I can't see anything that way. The sun's behind me. Okay? Yeah. Okay. Hi. Hi. Tim and his philosophy about the use of drugs... Well, drugs are to the brain what vehicles are to the outside musketeer. There's…

…water, only the wave. Not substance, but a form, substance assumed. Welcome, welcome to the San Francisco Timothy Leary Memorial Celebration. Tim wrote the introduction to my book, The Scientist. The third edition of that is coming out this summer, and I'm…

…to my book, The Scientist. The third edition of that is coming out this summer, and I'm adding a note about Tim's death. I saw Tim before I went here a month ago. I saw him when I came back. And the initiation of the thought was profound. And I…

…to share in its further creation. I find it fitting that this celebration should take place in the First Unitarian Church, for Tim himself spoke here nearly 35 years ago. The occasion was a series of lectures I had arranged for the University of…

…the University of California Extension, eight in all for eight consecutive weeks. The title I had given it was The Silent Revolution. Tim, stop gumming things up, would you? The title I had given it was The Silent Revolution. Needless to say, that bit of…

…look at the need to challenge assumptions in philosophy, and especially in the relation of the individual to the state. Then came Tim, talking about, guess what? If you think he was talking about LSD, however, you would be mistaken. He took on a broader…

…tonight is psychedelics in the 1990s. So what we're going to start out is learn from each other and to learn from the audience. And Tim will now start us with his version of the year 2000 and how to get there. Well, the first thing that is on my…

…in Sonoma County, and I am a citizen of Earth. I recognize no intermediate structures except my house. So I agree with Tim. I cheer on the people who present the protocols and plead their cases before these gray-faced medical boards. But in my opinion,…

…suburb of Berkeley with his wife, Marianne, and their two young children. I was very fond of her. She was very attractive, slender. Tim regarded her as a puppy, something to be cared for and vulnerable. Tim told me that she had had a depressive episode…

…was very fond of her. She was very attractive, slender. Tim regarded her as a puppy, something to be cared for and vulnerable. Tim told me that she had had a depressive episode several months before they married, before he knew her. But none of this…

…of 1954, Leary's office took on a new member of staff, Mary Della Choper, known as Del. I felt charmed by her presence and when Tim met her he felt much, much more so and it was clear to me that there was some instant magnetism going between them and…

…in their car in the garage. The engine was still running. She died of carbon monoxide poisoning. Before taking her own life, she'd cooked Tim a birthday cake. In a way, she was saying, you son of a bitch, look at what you've done. You've killed me, and…

…sorry episodes in the Leary family history. His father, a medical officer at West Point Military Academy, had abandoned the family when Tim was 13. An only child, he was brought up by his mother and aunt, both devout Catholics. Timothy would tell me how…

…of irresponsibility and hippie dropout, revolutionary flaky kind of thing. But as a total picture of the whole social movement is grossly distorted. Tim used to say, you can only see as far into the future as you can see into the past. So the 60s are,…

…mine that just called up that just said that her mother called. and said that she just heard that they're holding a vigil for Tim Leary's passing. Talk to the ghost. This is Timothy Leary. I'm back. Well, I had my fun. And let's get high. And put…

…heard him say a negative thing about a person. I've never heard a weak, self-pitying thought come from you. You're a great man, Tim. You're a great man. Yeah. What I'm doing is... I'm living every day as though I were the last. And it's getting better…

…a fact. I probably push my nervous system as much as any human being living. I think I'm the strongest, safest person around. Tim is an original. Tim is a mixture of modern psychology, science, and a heavy mixture of the Blarney Stone mixed in with it.…

…push my nervous system as much as any human being living. I think I'm the strongest, safest person around. Tim is an original. Tim is a mixture of modern psychology, science, and a heavy mixture of the Blarney Stone mixed in with it. And Tim, a hundred…

…an original. Tim is a mixture of modern psychology, science, and a heavy mixture of the Blarney Stone mixed in with it. And Tim, a hundred years ago, would be silly seeing elves and leprechauns. A hundred years ago, they'd say you were possessed by the…

…experience, psychedelic mystical experience is a sense of timelessness. Clearly that's what we're experiencing here today. I don't really need to introduce Tim to all of you, but I'd like to just tell you one thing that you probably don't know. I used to…

…and large. And at the University of Tampa, University of South Florida Tampa Medical School, they still use the textbook that Tim wrote that got him to Harvard, the Interpersonal Diagnosis of Personality. And also, I think that you're all familiar with…

…process has started. And that's exactly what happened in the 60s. A historically irreversible process started. It didn't really start there, as Tim pointed out. It goes way back in all of human history. But something did happen in the 60s that was prepared…

…that. Now, I was asked to talk about one of the benefits of what we did in the 60s and what are our mistakes. Tim didn't deal with what he might have done differently, but I can play the straight part, which I've done doing with Tim for years.…

…our mistakes. Tim didn't deal with what he might have done differently, but I can play the straight part, which I've done doing with Tim for years. Here are the things that happened, as I can see it, from what started in that period. First of all, the…

…There we go. Could somebody get on the communication line, please? Why am I saying that? What? Don't do anything embarrassing now, Tim, because we can see you. What do you want me to say? Something about the communications line, please. Something about the…

…to Timothy Leary? Hello, Timothy Leary. And now I hear nothing. That's fine. Uh-huh. Just stand by. They cut you off for a second, Tim, so they can talk to you. Somebody needs to call us at the same number. I can't hear anything from them now. No,…

…You can hear? Ruby, I can hear you and I can also hear myself in wonderful echo. Don't get too excited about this, Tim. Tremendous applause there. Thank you, Tim. We have nobody here. That's my mother. Poor Ruby, you're alone again. Oh, no, he's gone.…

…hear you and I can also hear myself in wonderful echo. Don't get too excited about this, Tim. Tremendous applause there. Thank you, Tim. We have nobody here. That's my mother. Poor Ruby, you're alone again. Oh, no, he's gone. He's gone. Tim, can you hear…

…applause there. Thank you, Tim. We have nobody here. That's my mother. Poor Ruby, you're alone again. Oh, no, he's gone. He's gone. Tim, can you hear me? I can hear you, Ruby. I can't believe this. I can't hear him. Did we get this cut right?…

…TV sponsored by IBM, and hope you stay for the whole show. Hi, this is a video of Timothy Leary and us talking over CUCME. Tim, can I ask you a question? Let's do it. Okay, Tim, I don't remember 1969. What was going on in 1969 around where you were…

…show. Hi, this is a video of Timothy Leary and us talking over CUCME. Tim, can I ask you a question? Let's do it. Okay, Tim, I don't remember 1969. What was going on in 1969 around where you were doing it? Well, for the first time in human history,…

…are playing now is full color and 30 frames, so it's pretty fast. The current one is monochrome. The other day, I talked to Tim. Actually, at the Expo, Tim C. Reilly, a big fan of Carl Malamud, the American agency, wrote the theme song for the Expo…

…color and 30 frames, so it's pretty fast. The current one is monochrome. The other day, I talked to Tim. Actually, at the Expo, Tim C. Reilly, a big fan of Carl Malamud, the American agency, wrote the theme song for the Expo for Tim C. Reilly. He…

…to Tim. Actually, at the Expo, Tim C. Reilly, a big fan of Carl Malamud, the American agency, wrote the theme song for the Expo for Tim C. Reilly. He asked me to do it here, and I was very happy. He was in it a while ago, since The Beatles. How…

…could use that? You have a chance. Thanks, honey. Okay. How about a lower podium, then? Oh, yeah. Okay, this will do it. Yeah, Tim. That was pretty cool. You know, on July 3rd, I open up the paper and there's two riots. I mean, there's like two…

…Avenue and readings, which is another way of saying that none of this might relate to what is read after it. So unlike Tim who has an excuse of old age and chromosome damage and senility, I have no such excuses and just plead stupidity and lack…

…a car crash after a night of serious drinking. I mean, the guy was always ODing on some unlikely drug, like acid. I mean, Tim, did you ever hear anybody OD on acid? I mean, Morrison was always ODing on acid. or in some bizarre sexual escapade or any…

…your father? A character in the book that you would have liked to have met. His mother. Well, she seemed a lot like Tim. Not like afraid to show her thoughts or anything and I mean going out and dancing with General McCartney. Really exciting, yeah.…

…eager to discover how LSD altered consciousness. The news of Leary's radical research had already spread to all corners of the world. Tim was obviously famous. You know, Tim was obviously famous. I mean, he's written many books. He was the man. He was the…

…altered consciousness. The news of Leary's radical research had already spread to all corners of the world. Tim was obviously famous. You know, Tim was obviously famous. I mean, he's written many books. He was the man. He was the man in front of the LSD…

…came this bust. Outrageous. Cartoons and... And they had blown a lot of minds in the Midwest and Oklahoma as they went through. Tim thought it was all great fun. He loved it. Took us swimming down there in the little river with the waterfall, spliced…

…hear the Blarney's going to kick out of your heart. Part of the key to getting anything real done is sticking with it. And Tim has certainly stuck with it over the years. I mean, he has not deviated from his deviations. And each religion has got their…

…Isn't that great? It's nice. We'll sit at the table and relax for a while. Party a little, huh? Let's do it. If Tim Larry dying on the Internet brings audience, they'll be right after him. That's the pollution factor there. People have seen just about…

…on the tape, and the next day they had themselves cut out of the tape. I mean, I don't know how far out this was. Tim, is that available through dolphin tapes? Yeah, I think so, yeah. The next morning I was running my seminar, and we suddenly saw an…

…ever look back and wish maybe that you hadn't done some of the things that you did? Were there any negatives along the way, Tim, in being the so-called drug guru? Why, sure. You gotta look at it as an enormous Super Bowl game for about 10 years in…

we change rooms, Tim, that's why we're taking time we've never tried this room before so we have to reset some of the technological fields is this here where the foundation is at the university? this room? yes, that's right, we have now a new area you…

…out about. Anyone else want to make a comment here? Well, yeah. Yes, I've finished with my sermon. What do you think, Tim, of the idea that the internet and virtual reality and the type of communication, it exists on a psychological level and doesn't…

…stuff and it's a really enjoyable networking experience for the San Francisco community. Here's a question from someone else here, Tim. I was wondering if you could discuss the difference between communication and creativity in what people would generally call…

…back, don't we? Yeah. Well, how about a round of applause for the electronics? Thank you, and eat again, okay? Good night. Hey Tim. Take care, Tim. Thanks, Kit and Sherry. Bye, Vincent. Bye, Derek. Bye, Tim. Thank you for coming. See you, Tim. That's the…

…Well, how about a round of applause for the electronics? Thank you, and eat again, okay? Good night. Hey Tim. Take care, Tim. Thanks, Kit and Sherry. Bye, Vincent. Bye, Derek. Bye, Tim. Thank you for coming. See you, Tim. That's the formal end. Okay,…

…did not know that. I was in the baggage, waiting for the slow southwest baggage. Go ahead and get all your plugs in now, Tim. And after five hours being on the plane with my girlfriend, Eileen Getty, who's a smoker... I lit up. And a nice guy came…

…to you from the previous night's guest. This is a letter from Kevin Pollack, a very funny comedian. He writes you, Hey, Tim, will we see you at the reunion Woodstock concert? Kevin Pollack. Well, that's a hard call. The idea of another Woodstock is…

…write another autobiography. Good designing. Great. Thanks for coming. Thank you. And, uh... There's an inscription in there from Terry Southern to Tim. Yeah, that's a name. Flash? What does it say? To Tip Top, which is one of his nicknames, I guess. Tip…

…Tim. Yeah, that's a name. Flash? What does it say? To Tip Top, which is one of his nicknames, I guess. Tip Top Tim? Solve the problems of human nature, namely. I just finished typing a manuscript called... I like this. It's like that script scene from…

…point is, it's a global language. You don't have to speak French, English, whatever. When you see the brawny guys coming out to Tim Strong, man, Marlboro country, hard rock, you know, a rocky moment, you don't have to do this. You know it's going under…

…in the world with Gordon is he's the biggest name in Poughkeepsie now. I know. We weren't on the air at the time. They asked Tim for a one, two, three, four, five, you know, a sound check. He gave it to them. He asked me for a sound check, and…

…told me they're all under arrest. Nobody leaves the room. Oh, Mike Heilman. He's still there. He's dead. He may be buried right now. Tim! I'd like to find him. Find him and bring him back. Bob's got the cocaine. In my opinion, for us to achieve our…

…and no one's ever going to compare with Helen Farr singing All the Things You Are, right? If you really want to get off. Tim came to Harvard, which I suppose is the most crucial nodal point in any discipline in American academia, and he blew it wide…

…real dumb ones would say zero percent. Gordon Liddy, I'm the master of my stage. Yeah. Right on, Gordon. I know what traveling with Tim did to me. So I have some suspicions about what traveling with Tim is doing to Gordon. back in 1967 up until up…

…of my stage. Yeah. Right on, Gordon. I know what traveling with Tim did to me. So I have some suspicions about what traveling with Tim is doing to Gordon. back in 1967 up until up until the cia captured him he was really cool when he turned in all…

…invented space migration from the British Interplanetary Society and Dick Hoagland of NASA. Would you come up and broadcast? Well, thanks, Tim. We don't want to take up any time, but we're going to make an announcement, you see, downstairs in about 30…

…to make an announcement, you see, downstairs in about 30 minutes or so. And so that you don't have to miss some of Tim O'Leary's interesting talk, we thought he invited us to just tell you what's happening. It's mainly on the Viking experiment. A lot of…

…other people that I find myself in this arena at this moment, which is not my usual stomping ground. I actually separated from Tim as a formal partner in about 1965. Since then, we have remained friends. My most recent visits with him were in Switzerland…

…spent a few days in the visiting room together. And as recently as last year, year and a half, Alan and I were doing benefits that Tim was legal from. And what I feel now is that we have to set up a dialogue and that you and I have got to assume…

…was also. and who I first turned on to answer some years back. And now, Billy, by his testimony, which has sent Nick and Tim to jail for 20 and 15 years, turns into somewhat of a scoundrel, apparently. Or at least it's harder to explain that in less…

…that during that period of time when I was lecturing, that question came up more often than any other. What's happening? Why did Tim do this? And when I reflected about it, my answer in general was, well, it didn't seem like a very cool strategy, but…

…Timothy is a violent person at this point. Okay, then the next rumor that was interesting, again, that I reflect about, was that Tim was the head of the acid mafia. Now, I have... worked for six years with Timothy, very closely. And I was involved in…

…least a definition of himself in a very powerful model role, perhaps martyr, perhaps not, but a very strong role. Tim's letter, Tim walking out of jail, felt to me, knowing Timothy, like an exquisitely pure act, done beautifully. It was awesome that the…

…the dance I think I would do where I'm sort of different. Now, in some way... My interpretation of Tim's letter is that Tim wanted to continue to build and influence and work with the dramatic changes that are occurring in this culture. And he saw that…

…of cryonics himself, says Leary always treated the subject with humor. Most people in the cryonics movement are very serious about it. Tim has a cartoon in his living room of a bunch of heads in a cryonic freezer and a janitor walking by accidentally…

…heads in a cryonic freezer and a janitor walking by accidentally kicking out the plug so they're all going to thaw out. And when Tim saw me looking at that, he says, well, we really can't be too serious about all this. In the same way, Leary's desire…

…and support the membership drive here at KPFA. We're also simulcasting in New York City at WBAI and also in Fresno. So right off, Tim, are you there? I'm here, Governor Brown. Happy to be with you and happy to be on this station. Well, thank you. I'm…

…because it really got my attention, he says, there is no morality at the speed of light. Would you have any comment on that, Tim? Uh... Well, I know what he means. It's one of those things that's kind of hard to put into low-down words. Say it one…

…we're free as long as we do it in groups, keep moving. That's the lesson of human evolution, is actually it. Okay, so Tim, you're saying in small groups, people are able, through their own minds, but with the tools of new technology, able to really…

…other. Okay. Rob, thank you very much. We're going to go to Larry in Fremont. Hey, Larry. Hi. Hi. Well, I thought since Tim Leary's on, this would be a good time to offer an apology for psychedelics, because I don't know if you've talked about this…

…enlightened in 1995 than we were in 1960? Yes, actually, it did have a change in society. Hey, wait, let's hear from Tim here, Larry. What Jerry's doing, he's using those same old metaphors. Right. Number. Well, I'm using numbers, which are always dubious.…