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Dive into the archives of psychedelic thought. Lorenzo Hagerty hosts essential conversations on entheogens, science, and the counterculture.
…to hear what he had to say. After all, back then, there was no world wide web, no arrowwid.org comma. And outside of Terence, detailed information about drugs was simply not available. In my case, I didnt even know about 2012 or the time wave until well…
…and gave what he called an example of cult thinking, I had to gulp a little, because during the mid to late nineties, Terence himself was well on the way to becoming a cult phenomena. In fact, there's been a lot of speculation that the pressure of…
…podcast today? Actually, I think that this one is right up there with a the dog ate my homework. You see, after listening to Terence talk about the Manicheans, I got out this old book of mine to read a little bit more about them. The book is titled…
…interviews that Jan Irvin did in his podcast with John Hopes and John Major Jenkins. But you can hear the complete talk of Terence by downloading it from the link that Miguel provided on our notes from the psychedelic salon blog. But I don't think you're…
…inexpensive and widely available to every person on the planet. By the way, early in this interview you just heard Terence mention the mescaline experiments of Doctor Havelock Ellis. And if you're interested, I've located an 1898 essay written by Ellis…
…ask if you are as impressed as I always am, when right in the middle of a long extemporaneous answer to some question that Terence can well, right out of the blue, begin quoting some obscure, at least to me, obscure poem, I wouldn't be so impressed if…
…is necessarily correct. Now, if that doesn't make you pay closer attention to this little talk, I don't know what will. So let's join Terence now and see what he has to say on the topic. As far as what I can contribute to the ayahuasca discussion, most…
…man, it's something that is almost incomprehensible until you experience it for yourself. Another question that was just asked of Terence is to compare the experience under mushrooms versus the experience under ayahuasca. And as you recall, Terence said, the…
…was just asked of Terence is to compare the experience under mushrooms versus the experience under ayahuasca. And as you recall, Terence said, the mushroom is animate, articulate, and also kind of extraterrestrial. I guess the way I would phrase it is that…
…And in my opinion, that talking 519 is his most complete discussion of his concept of a time wave. But for now, here's Terence. Well, what else is hanging for anybody this morning? Well, shamanism. We tend to lose sight of the fact that for the people…
…December, 1982. So here's a recording that somebody made in December of 1982, in which right off the bat, the first question to Terence refers to the two books that he had written at that point, and he answers by saying that he kept most of his…
…outer, that we shared. I am Terrance's only brother. I am the only one who can tell this tale from this unique perspective. Terence died in 2000, but his ideas live on, on the net and in his books. For example, true hallucinations, food of the gods,…
…And this may sound bizarre in ordinary reality, but these forms of synesthesia and synesthesia glossolalia are commonplace in psychedelic states. Terence, could you identify philosopher for us and tell us who he was? He was an Alexandrine Jew of the second…
…moments of being a father. And that was just a long way of saying that there is nothing out of the ordinary about Terence, if he was looking for little people, by taking his radio apart. Now, early on in this talk, do you remember when Terrence…
…time that we were together with him in the flesh, so to speak. And so it was an emotional time for everybody there, especially for Terence, of course. So at the end of his first talk, the one I'm going to play, he more or less laid the cards on the…
…accepted as the cornerstone of an enlightened civilization. But I truly believe that when that day does arrive, and I agree with Terence that it most certainly will arrive one day. And when it does, I think that the good Bard McKenna will be recognized…
…includes working our way through another 20 minutes section from that same conference. But if you thought it was difficult here, hearing Terence speak in the last recording, just wait a minute and it'll get worse. In fact, I'm only going to be able to…
…It's the experience that we go after. The thoughts are merely our reward for taking a chance and having the experience. Listening to Terence just now at the top of his form, really, it's still hard for me to believe that in less than seven months he…
…psychedelic salon where people are changing their lives one thought at a time. I wonder what you were thinking when, just now, we heard Terence say, and I quote: we really don't see light at the end of the tunnel, and neither does the fetus. This is a…
…to change things. Our ideas of how to best live in a global civilized society is once again in flux. However one thing that Terence said in this talk still sticks out in my mind more than anything else in today's lecture, and that is when he said that…
…even though the time wave actually never made it to theory status, nonetheless, there are some interesting historical commentaries that Terence makes in this talk, and which I found, well, somewhat thought provoking. Hopefully, you will, too. By the way, as…
…one thought at a time. I think that the first thing from this talk that I should comment on is the part where Terence said, and I quote, this transcendental object probably is more like a being than an object. I just call it a transcendental object…
…Now I'm wondering if I'm also the only one who thought of Teilhard E. Chardin's important book, the phenomena of man, when Terence was talking about the approach of an omega point. Of course that was the essential takeaway from that book. And I know…
…Terence was talking about the approach of an omega point. Of course that was the essential takeaway from that book. And I know that Terence was very familiar with it because the last time that I spoke with him was at the time when I was writing the…
…are changing their lives one thought at a time. I know it isn't fair to just pull one sentence out of one of Terence McKenna's talks, but just think about the implications of what he said about lost ancient knowledge. The particular quote I'm thinking of…
…describe quite a few times. And what I want to mention is that not everyone has the same kind of experience as Terence describes. Now, after listening to him describe his experience on DMT so many times, but with each description having some slight…
…mainly about psychoactive substances, you know, where they came from and how to use them. And so today you're going to hear Terence confronting that fact himself. And that then branching off into what over time, became a new tangent for him. By February…
…until Xandor interviewed Terrance for Mondo 2000, sometime in 1993, that I first learned about him. But out on the west coast, well, Terence was already quite well known. In fact, the lady who was now my wife began attending his lectures as far back as…
…give you a little idea of how different the culture is on the two coasts of this country. And as you listen to Terence talking about various psychedelics, keep in mind that back when he was giving this talk, there was next to nothing available other…
…the psychedelic salon where people are changing their lives one thought at a time. Unless I'm mistaken, I think that I heard Terence say that ayahuasca was a cold infusion. Yet as we all know, the two components of ayahuasca needed to be boiled together…
…are important here, because from time to time he admits to not having all of his facts in line. Now, when I listened to Terence with you just now, I couldn't help but think that here he was just approaching the peak of his mesmerizing powers of bardic…
…Gutenberg and I put the link directly to it in today's program notes, which you can find@psychedelicsalon.com. you know, when I heard Terence mention that early in his talk, well, it sounded something like, well, it would be fun for me to read here at…
…this final ticking out of the last seconds of the third act. And in case you have been wondering for some time, exactly what Terence means when he speaks of the other, in addition to the little bits that I just now played, you will also hear him very…
…take him about 20 minutes to get up to speed. But once he does, he's off once again to the mind races. So let's join Terence McKinnon now and see if you don't agree with me that changing the title of this talk to the importance of being human or…
…this talk is still relevant almost 30 years after it was given, well, in about four minutes from now, we're going to hear Terence say, and I quote, we meet, as we always have, in an atmosphere of deepening planetary crisis. And this was said in June…
…place in February of 1996. And in a previous section of this workshop, the one that I played in podcast 472, we heard Terence for the first time confronting the fact that there was a possibility of a serious flaw in his time wave hypothesis. And while…
…know what happened next. But for right now, let's just suspend our knowledge of the rest of the story and try to listen to Terence as if we're hearing him for the first time when he talks about the time wave and about novelty. And for what it's worth,…
…what it's worth, while we now know that the time wave hypothesis fell apart, at least as it was initially conceived by Terence. Nonetheless, I still have a hunch that somewhere in his ideas about novelty habit, and in particular his thoughts about time…
…1 day yet give humanity a collective aha moment. But I wouldn't put any money on that hunch if I were you. Now, here's Terence. This maybe isn't the appropriate time for this, but it's okay to mention it. In trying to think about the evolution of human…
…changing their lives one thought at a time. Now, that's something about the time wave that I hadn't thought about before. What if Terence had made his end point sometime, say, in the year 3000 or something like that? In other words, what if instead of…
…the same way before. And as you can see, I've titled this talk a few conclusions about life. And I did that because that's what Terence seems to indicate the title should be after he's been talking for a bit. But the title of the file I was given is…
…must have taken place sometime in 1996, and it was given in Chicago at some kind of a new age gathering, at which Terence obviously felt somewhat out of place because at one point he even described himself as the crazy uncle at a family gathering. In…
…me since the time wave is built around an ancient chinese book. And I probably don't need to add this observation, but just because Terence calls his time wave idea a theory, in fact it isn't. As you already know, a theory is a coherent group of tested…
…yourself, however, just to see what I may have missed. Well, that's enough of my critique of the time wave for now, so let's join Terence and learn what it is that made him believe in the power of that old book to tell the future of the entire human…
…about is how you draw a pattern to a given scale. Like, does it make sense to say. You could put in Terence McKenna's birthday and see his timeline? People always ask this question. Yeah, although I'm not entirely comfortable with it. Let me trace…
…and listen to them again if you want, but for me, the time wave excitement is over. By the way, did you notice that Terence just began with the assumption that the I Ching is to be taken in and believed without question? If this session had begun with…
…of my say right now so that you can better grok what I happen to think is one of the more fascinating times for Terence. Times to be conducting a workshop, that is, and talking about his time wave hypothesis. And please note that, well, at least in my…
…a time wave is more of a hypothesis and not really a true theory anyway, it was at that Palenque conference where Terence had prearranged to meet a young man named Matthew Watkins, and they were going to explore ways in which Terence's hypothesis could…
…wave. I'm telling you this now ahead of the talk, so that, you know, ahead of time that Watkins hadn't traveled to meet Terence in order to expose a flaw in his theory or hypothesis, whatever you want to call it. They were originally meeting about…
…you want to call it. They were originally meeting about Watkins's work with prime numbers. And as you'll hear in this talk, Terence was actually kind of shaken with this revelation that had come forth, and he hadn't quite yet come to terms with what…
…he does what he always does. He waxes eloquent with thoughts like, and I quote, this is one of my favorite quotes of Terence. Now, my idea of enlightenment is when ego and Tao are fused and Tao is perceived as ego, then everything happens with complete…
…this concept of a transcendental object at the end of time, well, today I'm only going to say that I almost felt that Terence would have made a fantastic preacher, you know, when he was going through that rap about transcendental objects at the end of…
…I was just really entranced by his words, but of course we should never forget that. Anyway, in my opinion, I should say Terence was at heart a poet, and that by considering some of these raps from the perspective of poetic license, well, to me it…
…mp3 player because my guess is that you are going to want to listen to that particular rap several times. No one but Terence, I think, could come up with a believable version of a mythical, psychedelic greek mayan civilization that split off from us a…
…websites and pages on some of the various social networks around the net. You old timers remember, I'm sure that one of Terence McKenna's mantras was find the others. And from what I'm hearing from some of you, that's really starting to take place some…
…short talk about shamanism by Terence McKenna. It's only about 18 minutes long, but I think you'll hear a couple of ideas from Terence that we haven't heard here in the salon before. So now here's Terence. Well, in 15 minutes, to try and say something…
…but I think you'll hear a couple of ideas from Terence that we haven't heard here in the salon before. So now here's Terence. Well, in 15 minutes, to try and say something about shamanism and hallucinogens, we're just going to touch the surface. And I…
…himself too seriously, happy to surf the wave that is language. This particular podcast was bittersweet. The dude who asked Terence about mapping his experiences onto myths and vice versa, playing a game with leprechauns that might yield something of value…
…we just heard about. But first, a little spoiler alert here. Before the next half hour is up, you're going to hear Terence go on about the possibility of a worldwide economic collapse and the further possibility that China may be about to start another…
…of the Stone address that we're about to hear. In a way, I find this one of the most hopeful talks that I've heard Terence give. As always, he seems to come up with new ideas that, while revolutionary in one sense, seems so obvious when he states…
…tribute to Terrence McKenna that was created by the novelty project not long after Terrence died. So let's begin with an introduction of Terence by Tim Leary and then go right to a 1995 talk by Terence McKenna that he called the state of the Stone. I'd…
…the end of history. Wow, that's a pretty bold statement, but one thing we probably should keep in mind when when we hear Terence say things like that is that he sometimes thinks more in terms of cosmic time than human time. For example, if you listen…
…I think it was in June of 1991. And it may also have been one of the largest live audiences ever to hear Terence, with more than 800 people present. Now, as youll hear, Terrence actually titled this talk unfolding the Stone. And a few years ago,…
…just. It was just so perfectly Hessa journey to the east. And so we meet again here tonight. You know, I was talking to Terence backstage before we began, and we both agree that what he will be saying tonight has been said over and over again at all…
…The problem is, though, that once you say it, you know, you can't go on saying it and saying it and saying it. And when Terence came along a few years ago and was saying what I'd been trying to say, but naturally better upgraded up to date, I was so…
…trying to say, but naturally better upgraded up to date, I was so overwhelmed with gratitude, and I publicly thank you for that, Terence. By the way, the role that Terence is playing right now is one that takes not only vision, but it also takes fucking…
…up to date, I was so overwhelmed with gratitude, and I publicly thank you for that, Terence. By the way, the role that Terence is playing right now is one that takes not only vision, but it also takes fucking courageous. We were saying backstage that…
…he was working for. But our psychedelic, Alex Jones took that comment out of context and created a big conspiracy theory about Terence being a narc. It's complete nonsense, of course, but if you know anyone who is into conspiracy theories, then you already…
…Now, before I go, I'd like to insert a little heresy here. Over the years and on numerous occasions, we've heard Terence speculate that these otherworldly entities, that ones that we sometimes seem to encounter in psychedelic states, are what he calls…
…think about my dad, his spirit is present with me. Could a similar but more powerful energy field of remembrance also be what Terence calls an ecology of souls? And in case you're wondering what I think about this, well, I'm sorry to say that you're…
…interview with the man that Terrance called the guy from LA, but he didn't name him. You see, back then, with the exception of Terence and a few others, we were all trying to keep a very low profile when it came to psychedelics and Terrace was very…
…before, what Terrence McKenna or anyone else experiences on a particular substance isnt necessarily what you are going to expect. For example, Terence said that on ketamine he lost the concept of having taken a drug. Now ive had a few high dose Im…
…it the spirit molecule, takes you in and out. But why does it bring you into this elf machinery? Are these elves only in Terence McKenna's mind? Because one, he's irish, you know, you got to be irish to do it. You just can't. You have to give to…
…let's switch over to the science part of things for a while. So are these trips real at all? Well, because people like Terence or others who've been on these experiences would say they have to be from another universe, because I could not. I don't have…
…the other question, which was earlier in today's talk, which is, do you need to take these hard, heavy chemicals in a sense, Terence talks about, and I won't play you the audio unless you're really dying to hear more. Terence, are you dying to hear…
…heavy chemicals in a sense, Terence talks about, and I won't play you the audio unless you're really dying to hear more. Terence, are you dying to hear more, Terence? You are. Well, here's Terence on this topic. Psychedelic experience, in the best sense…
…about, and I won't play you the audio unless you're really dying to hear more. Terence, are you dying to hear more, Terence? You are. Well, here's Terence on this topic. Psychedelic experience, in the best sense of the word, a religious activity. And it's…
…McKenna. I realize that we were in the middle of listening to one of the trialogues between Ralph Abraham, Rupert Sheldrake, and Terence, but I wanted to begin the year with something more focused, something that we maybe could use to help set our course…
…he fell into, and you have a hard combination to come up with again. But at least for me, the one thing that set Terence apart from the equally great minds of some of his contemporaries is his ability to not take himself too seriously and admit to the…
…We just listened to ideas like the precondition for creativity is, I think, disequilibrium, what mathematicians now call chaos. Well, Terence, if disequilibrium is conductive to creativity, it looks as if we're about to enter a highly creative year and do…
…month. I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction with something in the syntax of Psychedelic Time podcast. Terence mentions making projections of the time wave of individuals to show the rise and fall of novelty. He says you cannot…
…trivialize this, but my hunch is that every one of us would come up with a different list of where to begin to listen to Terence. But if anyone does have some ideas that they would like to share about this, why don't you begin a topic about it on…
…there who were really into the time wave and the potential for a 2012 event. It isn't that these early exchanges between Terence and those attending his workshop weren't interesting, it's just that some of what was said was rather personal, and it just…
…community was a very close second. Another thing that caught my attention, Washington. Just near the end of this talk, when Terence was speaking about iliad and shamanism. He said that Iliad, and I quote, wrote a book that changed my life forever…
…a book that changed my life forever called Cosmos in history. I think that may be the first time that I ever heard Terence mention that book for sure. I don't remember him saying it changed his life forever. Now, Terence doesn't say when he first read…
…be the first time that I ever heard Terence mention that book for sure. I don't remember him saying it changed his life forever. Now, Terence doesn't say when he first read that book, but I can tell you when I read it, because I still have my copy of…
…me away from all organized religions. So I guess I, too, should count it as an important book in my life. I'm not sure when Terence first read this book, but I can say with certainty that when I read it, Terence was only 17 years old. So it seems…
…a number of different working hypotheses about it, but no firm belief. However, in a few minutes, we're going to hear some of Terence McKenna's ideas on the subject. And my favorite one of his is when he says, or maybe there is another tenant in our…
…people we touch each day, huh? However, I can't help adding one more little thought here about the concept of culture, since Terence always seems to use culture as one of his main talking points, particularly in pointing out that culture is a cult. Now,…
…hear your thoughts about the time wave sometime soon. I think about it a lot, and I think most people will agree that where Terence went wrong is in predicting an end date. It's an incredibly tempting thing to do and it makes the whole story much more…
…octopusmessiah.com comma, I would greatly appreciate it. If you click on the octopath, you can follow the long, torturous journey from meeting Terence to the relaunch of the book he helped me catalyze. End quote. Now, in the future, I'll have more to say…
…the package, in addition to the Esalen workshop recordings, there was another cassette tape that is hand labeled with only the notation Terence number two, and I posted a picture of it in today's program notes, which you'll find at psychedelic Salon. And I…
…the Terrance McKenna Mystery hour. But upon reflection, I realized how flaky that sounds. And that's why today's podcast is titled simply Terence number two. Now, as we listen to this talk, which seems to have been recorded in a big room or auditorium,…
…help us figure out when and where this was recorded. There were two clues that I picked up on. One of them was when Terence was talking about a politician from Austin. And my guess is that this was Bush the younger when he was running for president.…
…there. And that seems to indicate a UFO conference of some kind, but. Well, I don't think it was the same UFO conference that Terence spoke at. In the podcast back in 2011 I had posted. It was called the Definitive UFO Tape and is my podcast number…
…I'll link to in today's program notes in case you're interested. And as you know, you can get to them via psychedelicsalon us also Terence spoke of what he called the entities in DMT space. In fact, he even said, and I quote, I think it's big news…
…4 June that year. And now there are quite a few wraps in this talk that you are going to find quite enjoyable as Terence discusses the progression that he took both in his mind and on the ground, as well as he evolved into a psychedelic thinker, a…
…fun to think about is his continuing focus on language that is made visible. Now heres my rather pedestrian thought about what for Terence was a much more sublime concept. But if you think about that old proverb that says a picture is worth a thousand…
…that way makes me think that perhaps we are already in some kind of a transitional phase that is trending in the direction Terence dreamed of when he thought communications would be beheld instead of being heard or read. So what did you think when he…
…where I was and who I was with at the time. I could hardly take my eyes off of it. So now let's listen to Terence McKenna's first impression of HGTV, among. Well, among a few other things. Well, I don't know about HGTV. It seems slow coming. I saw…
…been. But now Jacques is working with Terence's family to restore it to its pristine state, and so he's become a caretaker gardener at Terence Kenna's old house in Hawaii. So if you can, it would be really cool if you can give Jock a helping hand, and…
…Now you're listening to the psychedelic salon. Where people are changing their lives one thought at a time. I definitely agreed with Terence when he said, cannabis is the rudder on your ship. Like him, I not only used cannabis every day, I also used…
…is with Mark more or less in mid sentence as he was talking about Robert Anton Wilson's book Cosmic Trigger, in which Terence is mentioned. Tape one, by the way, consists primarily of brief personal introductions given by the people in the audience. So…
…of interpersonal barriers in a really, really wonderful way. And hopefully at the end of all of this, I will have been inspired, Terence will have been inspired by what you had to say, and we'll be able to bring that heart centeredness which has to, I…
…that's what we'll be talking about this weekend. Although I'd like to add my two cent to some of the things that Mark and Terence just covered. I'm a little pressed for time right now, and so I'm going to pass up the opportunity, at least for now, and…
…asking about for several years now, and that is to put together a psychedelic reading list. Actually, it was the fact that Terence began this segment of his 1987 workshop by mentioning the titles of several books that he thought were essential for any…
…thinking along this track. What I am going to do right now is to add a few more book titles to the ones that Terence just mentioned. Considering the fact that over a quarter of a century has passed since Terrence gave this workshop, my guess is that…
…is one more thing that if you're like me, you'll enjoy thinking about. In the talk that we just listened to, we heard Terence talking about the supposition that there may be atoms in our bodies that had their origin in other star systems and have…
…of them. You're listening to the psychedelic salon where people are changing their lives. One thought at a time. When just now Terence was saying that we humans are very, very restless. Well, I thought about how that might have related to my own life.…
…King. However, I've changed the title to shamanism, alchemy, and the 20th century, which I think better describes it. But let's join Terence now and see whether or not you agree with me. About five years ago with Tim Leary one raucous evening. Maybe some…
…evolution of the planet as well. And hopefully you'll be getting something new out of this in its larger context. But before Terence gets to the psychedelic apes, among other interesting topics he covers is his take on the drug culture of the 1960s and…
…delicious. Of course, the getting baked part is up to us cannabis tokers, don't you know? And I'll bet that when you heard Terence say nobody should be allowed more than 50 years to get their act together, well, you probably thought the same thing I…
…several others. Here is part of what he wrote. Just wanted to say that I did notice the November 2012 date mentioned by Terence in the above podcast, rather than the usual December 21 we've all heard is the end date of the time wave. Some refinement…
…above podcast, rather than the usual December 21 we've all heard is the end date of the time wave. Some refinement made by Terence in the mid eighties perhaps? Well, until we hear some more of Terence's early lectures on the subject, not going to draw…
…a teacher, lecturer, mentor and all around great guy. Please welcome to the podium doctor Stanley Kripner. Thank you very much Terence, and thank you very much for such a brilliant introductory talk. Well some of you remember that when Albert Hoffman wrote…
…my humble opinion. This is it. In case you missed the memo, by the way, this is the big one. The quantum change that Terence sometimes called the end of history. But what I think may be more accurately called the beginning of the history of a global…
…more visible. And with VR, our virtual bodies can be commanded by our imaginations. Now, this is probably far from where I think Terence was going with his metaphor, but at the very least, it may be a stepping stone to, well, as James Joyce so famously…
…stranger than we can suppose. See if that doesn't come close to what you think when you hear this fun rap of his. Now here's Terence. Well, is there, you all went off to lunch somewhere? Not where I was, so I don't know where you went. You found the…
…for the quality of the mind of Terence McKenna. Now, you might want to brace yourself for one particularly long stretch in which Terence goes into minute detail about his insights into the structure of the I ching. But even if you dont want to make the…
…program notes. And that's all I have to say about this for now, but I do find it quite curious myself. So we begin with Terence reading a few words he jotted down that cover the range of topics he planned on covering in the talk we were about to…
…Other than my wife, my belief seemed so out there that I didn't feel comfortable discussing my visions with others. After listening to Terence and Shulgin and you and so many others on your podcast, I began to find my faith again. While the rave scene…
…of the scholarship that's currently underway might confirm or deny this. But it's my impression that as the 2012 date became closer, Terence began to temper some of his more wild speculations, like the ones that we're about to hear today. But his payoff…
…that the proper term for such a transfer was uploading, moving our consciousness up into a computer. But now I see how maybe Terence got it right. Think about this for a minute. If our consciousness was now actually in a computer. And then if we moved…
…know Terrence McKenna. I knew Terrence McKenna personally for a scant three years before his death in 2000. I was introduced to Terence by John Wentworth, who at the time worked deep in the bowels of a Silicon Valley carpet new media laboratory which was…
…virtual worlds, could relate to his internal worlds of the elevated mind. In exchange for guiding him into this new cyberspace, Terence was to introduce me to his worlds of the accentuated mind. As it turned out, Terrence's ulterior motive in exploring…
…It was a compelling bit of presence, despite the crudity of the tech. At fun points throughout the afternoon, we all joined Terence on camera, waving to the assembled multitude. After quite a bit of initial milling around of avatars and positioning of our…
…they could flow in and out of the portals in the gateway world that Finn and I had put together. This was called the Terence test world, sort of in a sense, like the acid test. The main attraction was a portal to the entheogenic garden world named…
…in the light of today's 2012 mania, and worth retelling here. As far as I can recall from that day over a decade ago, Terence made the remark that people shouldn't take this all literally. It's just a metaphor. We had talked earlier about y two k, and…
…seems to ring true to me. Of course, maybe that's because I'm just a stoned ape myself. Well, enough of that. Let's join Terence for the first of what will be a multi week podcast series of this course. Basically, this is a workshop to discuss the…
…and abandon yourself to the dynamic of the larger mind that we find ourselves embedded in. End quote. Have you ever heard Terence talking about being embedded in another mind before? I've heard many of his metaphors, but I can't remember him talking about…
…don't know about you, but there were a few riffs in that talk that reinforced my belief that at his most basic, well, Terence was truly a bard. And what strikes me the most is that he was speaking extemporaneously. Few people can even write that…
…me the most is that he was speaking extemporaneously. Few people can even write that poetically after a few revisions. And here's Terence waxing poetic whenever the mood struck him. I may not agree with everything he said, but I've never been so captivated…
…earning capacity to be to feel all right. I think I said this at one point, but my namesake is the roman poet Terence, and he wrote these really trashy little social commentary plays. But one quote of his has come down as fairly memorable. He said,…
…should have mentioned a long time ago, but, well, it keeps slipping my mind. In a few moments, we're going to be hearing Terence speak about some books that he recommends for your library. And like I've always done in the past, I place links to those…
…back to the synchronicity, and it'll only become obvious to our fellow saunters who have already read Homo Deos. But once Terence gets into the meat of his talk and begins his rap on artificial intelligence and the Internet, well, you'll almost believe…
…about this great book in a future podcast, because until then, you really won't be able to grok how very much up to date that Terence is in this talk that was given almost 20 years ago. It blew my mind the first time that I heard this rap, and so…
…like all my coolest friends seem to have one, so I'm sure the Alchemist would like it, too. Also, I was interested in hearing Terence talk about how the establishment did its best to squash out any new words that the hippies came up with, and they did…
…and profound psychedelic experience, there simply is no way to explain what an incredibly pure, crystalline, godlike experience this is. As Terence often said, you can spend the rest of your life sweeping out the ashram or following the rules of one of…
…an interesting site that has interviews of many of the early luminaries of the psychedelic movement. And in the interview with Terence, I found the following McKenna ism. He said, we're moving towards something very much like eternal dreaming, going into the…
…For one thing, that future is already here, particularly the part about what is called artificial intelligence. Although I part ways from Terence when he talks about the time wave, I am in sync with his thinking about what could happen if our machines…
…It's still a secret. It's the secret that can't be told. And with that, let's now rewind this talk back to the beginning and join Terence and a few friends on a June day in 1994. And just for fun, try to recall what you were doing that month. Silicon…
…on your current state of short term memory function. Of course. What was I talking about? Oh, yeah, our last podcast, we left Terence saying. He just said about all he had to say about schizophrenia. Well, but it turns out there was another question on…
…to the psychedelic salon, where people are changing their lives one thought at a time. Now, that's an interesting question that Terence just left us with. What happens when an entire society goes crazy? Well, now we know the answer. The society gone…
…spare time using psychedelics yourself or working for their legalization. It's your time. Spend it wisely. Earlier in this talk we heard Terence ask himself, what does it mean that it gets harder and harder to take these things? And then he listed all of…
…that we've been kind of winding our way through these past few weeks. Now, in about 21 minutes from now, you're going to hear Terence talk about what it would be like to have your whole life digitally recorded. And I'm sure that I don't have to tell…
…to the psychedelic salon, where people are changing their lives one thought at a time. I hope that you listened closely to Terence when he said that regarding a psychedelic experience, that you never know what's going to happen. I know that the old timers…
…a really wonderful experience. So I'd like to think that the inspiration for Google glasses may have come from one of Terence McKenna's workshop, where one day some young geek who was in attendance became inspired with Terrence's fantasy. Actually, if the…
…convert to Christianity. Alaric the Visigoth burned Eleusis on his way to North Africa to burn other things. Yeah. I was wondering, Terence, if you'd had a chance to read the emperor's new mind by Roger Penrose. I think it's an argument against the idea…
…can go to our other site, our audio site, palenque norte, palenquenorte.org, and click on the podcast link. Now let's get back to Terence, and we'll begin with a cut that has his, among other things, has his rap about the archaic revival. Well, I wrote…
…to abuse, at least not quite in the same way as you can with some psychedelics. By the way, I do agree with Terence about the value of John Major Jenkins book, Maya Cosmogenesis 2012. It's really too bad Terence isn't still around to comment on the…
…By the way, I do agree with Terence about the value of John Major Jenkins book, Maya Cosmogenesis 2012. It's really too bad Terence isn't still around to comment on the work of Carl Johan Kaliman, which I think is more recent than, in fact, Calleman's…
…is mainly coming from, you know, the PhD, math and physics guys who are using the term much more precisely than I think Terence intended when he spoke of a cultural singularity, you know, more as a poetic term, I think, than as a scientific one. So…
…and charting your own course. But where shamanism becomes priestcraft, it's already well on its way to senescence. Terence, what are you collectively perceiving together as a group taking mushrooms? You're collectively perceiving similar phenomena without…
…there's. There's a lot of really important information here that you don't want to miss. And what I think sometimes happens is Terence will say something and you'll be off in the clouds thinking about what he said, and you'll miss about six thoughts in…
…up on where we left off, I first want to replay a short soundbite from that program. It's one of, I think, one of Terence McKenna's more poetic riffs about the Internet. And the reason I really want to play it right now, besides the fact that I just…
…person best qualified to foresee the year 2012 actually says he can't see it. So that's that. Meanwhile. Well, you hesitated, Terence. A time in Newsweek magazines had no inhibition in laying down exactly what was coming in 2010, 20 and 30, particularly…
…the variation of the amount of novelty per year or per century. And it seems to me that there's really a lot of it. And Terence, I think, is the only one who's published a graph of novelty as a function of time on his website. And it's the least…
…that's my take on where we are at the millennium with the Internet. And now for a counterpoint of just plain talk. Well, Terence and I have touched on these topics before, and we are in pretty much fundamental agreement, not because of arguing with each…
…exist after the construction of this new technological piece? Now, I think there is. There's no way to justify this. And again, Terence, you used the word the gnostic. Whatever you said, we feel that and have discussed a couple years ago, I think the…
…in the tenderer portions of my anatomy is not alien enough for my case. I think you'd be due for an abduction, Terence. But probably you've already had one denial. I'm sure, given sufficient therapy, under the right hands, we could confirm. I think we…
…easier said than done but one of the best places to begin that kind of work I think is to listen to some of Terence McKenna's mind bending lectures so, without any further fanfare, here is Terence McKenna Trying to figure out what in the world is going…
…of you who have not yet experienced one of Terence's Brilliant talks at the end of the last century the ltne reader selected Terence as one of the hundred most influential people of the 20th century in my opinion he's definitely in the top ten so,…
…a footnote in the time wave computer program manual. Basically, what happened is that of the 384 so called data points that Terence used to explain his hypothesis in, I think, excruciating detail in his book the Invisible Landscape, well, half of them got…
…research. I asked him why he did it in this case, and he simply claimed not to remember. So, in addition to Terence changing his initial end date after then learning about the mayan calendars end date, it appears that Terence, or somebody else who…
…in addition to Terence changing his initial end date after then learning about the mayan calendars end date, it appears that Terence, or somebody else who was involved in helping him with the invisible landscape, simply reversed half of the 384 data points…
…number of ideas that have, well, they've led me to where I am today, and for that I am most grateful. But since Terence himself made the time wave so central to his work, I've been trying to piece together a lesson, well, at least for myself,…
…about the end of the world or the eschaton as he envisioned it. Basically, I think that it says as much about us followers of Terence as it does about him. You know, deep down, when life doesn't seem to be working out the way we want it to, locking…
…here before criticizing that screwball preacher for going back to the Bible for a reboot. After all, we just learned that Terence, at least in my opinion, planned on doing something analogous by taking more psilocybin to re investigate his time wave…
…Terence is playing right now is one that takes not only vision, but it also takes fucking courageous. We were saying backstage that Terence and I are a small group of philosophers who make our living not in the ivory tower, if you call it living, but…
…Than the speaker. Tonight, I'm going to say one more thing, and then we will have what we've all been waiting for. Terence reminds us that all human wisdom, all energy, comes from our beloved synergetic partners, the vegetable queendom. It all comes from…
…Oil, by the way, is the number one crack addiction of the modern industrial society. But what we forget and what we look to Terence for tonight is to be reminded that plants have given us an even more important gift. They give us the gift of vision.…
…if you get it right. In the absence of a scale, how might one measure 5 grams of psilocybin? Dry psilocybin? Spring for the scale. Terence, I was here the last time you were in LA, I think about a year and a half, two years ago. And I mentioned at…
…add. You were raised a Catholic and went to catholic schools. Well, you most likely, like me, shouted to yourself, yes, yes. When Terence said, and I quote, you've been told from the cradle that the deck was stacked against you, fall of man, original sin…
…that that king is wearing no clothes, so to speak. One final thing for me to mention is that those three books that Terence mentioned are all now available through Amazon, and I'll link to them in the program notes for this podcast, which you can get…
…the audio unless you're really dying to hear more. Terence, are you dying to hear more, Terence? You are. Well, here's Terence on this topic. Psychedelic experience, in the best sense of the word, a religious activity. And it's imprisoned intellect or…
…the consequences of their actions. So humanity is. The stakes are even higher than when Terrence died. And I had conversations with Terence on other things, but none of us could see the last ten years. Since 1999, the stakes have gotten even higher. You…
…I would like to add to this discussion right now, and that is to once again remind you of one of the ways in which Terence sometimes defined the ego. He said that ego is a process, a process that we use to gain advantage over others. And while you…
…an important book in my life. I'm not sure when Terence first read this book, but I can say with certainty that when I read it, Terence was only 17 years old. So it seems fair to me to say that Terrence got a lot more out of that book than I did.…
…to the psychedelic salon, where. People are changing their lives one thought at a time. So, have you figured out where and when Terence gave this talk? Well, now I have a confession to make. After I digitized this talk and returned the tape to the…
…and when this one was given, and I'll be sure to keep you informed of any progress on this mysterious front. Anyhow, since Terence went into such detail about black holes, I feel I should probably point out to you that recently, with the publication of…
…with a few grains of sand. I think the jury is still out about the physical phenomena that we call black holes. Now, since Terence spent so much time talking about the end of the world, and he also used the religious concept of a possible ecology of…
…religion of my parents. The way that I began my journey out of the darkness of religious belief is to ask myself a question that Terence once posed. And that is, why do you believe what you do? What is the basis of your belief? No one can answer that…
…you've never actually questioned. Well, that's enough lecturing from me for today. And I think that I've mentioned this before, but since Terence was talking so much about DMT just now, I want to be sure that this little tidbit isn't lost. Hopefully, some…
…had bit into the UFO believers for more than a decade. Remember unannounced visits by pro bono proctologists from other star systems? Terence was cognizant that his own byline they have to be subject to the same rules of evidence as everyone else, also…
…and get on with good visionary works not pegged to an arbitrary square on the calendar. At the end of that conversation with Terence back in 1999, I still felt a hope lingering within him that he would be around to experience what, through all of his…
…All of this is by way of introduction to the piece you will hear at the second half of this podcast. In it, I gave Terence a pretty major dump of goods off the shelf of my own novelty general store. Luckily, Jim Essex had his hi eight video camera…
…good work by planning to do a joint workshop at Esalen in the spring of 2000. Little of any of us know that Terence was only weeks away from a personal volcanic eruption of epic proportions with the arrival of his first major seizure that indicated the…
…with users around the world. I recall a poignant moment when all of us there were invited to get prone on the floor with Terence in the middle. We were free to project healing energy, conjure visions, or do anything we wished vis a vis Terence. As I…
…with Terence in the middle. We were free to project healing energy, conjure visions, or do anything we wished vis a vis Terence. As I have a kind of hypercharged 3d imagination, hence my profession in virtual worlds, my brain immediately popped into gear…
…with unseen driver and plush red seating in the rear. It whirred to a stop next to a vision of the lone, prone Terence. His ghostly, lanky form then became upright, and he stepped deftly into the eggmobile, and the unseen pilot shifted some gears and up…
…in fact, what was really going on was that Terence's own life was accelerating. And in fact, if you look at recordings of Terence in the maritime hall doing overtoning and the poetry and the riffs and the raps with the band lost at last, in December…
…in Hawaii, the trips, the success of the books, multimedia projects, everything his life was in this incredible acceleration. So perhaps, Terence, it was Terrence's idea that, hey, if I was around to 2012 and my life kept accelerating like this, I don't…
…performative voice? Or just simply his special and precious weirdness? On April 3 of this year of 2010, we held the first annual Terence day on the 10th anniversary of his passing, in the very room where, in 1998, Finn, Ralph, and Terence came to journey…
…held the first annual Terence day on the 10th anniversary of his passing, in the very room where, in 1998, Finn, Ralph, and Terence came to journey into my worlds. I do miss him and wished I'd had the chance to have another decade of exploration with…
…house on the side of the world's largest volcano possibly represented Terence's closest approach to this dream. But who's to say what Terence experienced at the moment of his passing on April 3, 2000, after his last words? It's all about love and keep…
…I think. And so I've left them up there for a little while longer now. Anyway, let's get to the conversation between Bruce and Terence that Bruce described just a few minutes ago. When Bruce first sent me this recording to play, I told him that as much…