Originally aired as Salon #567 of the Psychedelic Salon podcast. Recorded April 1995. "I take psychedelics to be the catalysis of language." "This great period of creativity that we're living through now in the sciences, in the arts, in the implementation of exotic technology…"

"One of the reasons I'm so fond of psychedelics is because they transcend rhetoric." "Meditation and all these other things I take to be co-options organized by beastly hoards of priests." "One of the most uncool things you can say to another…