
August 27, 2013. 101-minute dharma talk given by Thich Nhat Hanh from Blue Cliff Monastery in Pine Bush, New York during the 2013 Nourishing Great Togetherness teaching tour. This is the second dharma talk for the 6-day retreat with the theme Transformation and Healing – The Art of Suffering.
Summary
This talk presents a detailed teaching on mindfulness, suffering, and interbeing, delivered in the context of a retreat for the Sangha and children. The speaker repeatedly invites the community to breathe together as one body, emphasizing collective mindfulness, shared presence, and the dissolution of separation. The talk begins with devotional and poetic references to the Buddha, the Bodhisattva of deep listening, Avalokiteshvara, and the practice of taking refuge in the Buddha, Dharma, and Sangha. It then moves into practical instruction, especially for children, on breathing in awareness of the body and smiling to the body as a simple form of meditation. A major theme is the transformation of ordinary experience into meditation. Drinking tea, eating ice cream, and doing calligraphy are all described as opportunities to practice mindfulness. The speaker explains that tea, ink, paper, and calligraphy all contain the cloud, because all things inter-are and are made of many non-self elements. The cloud becomes rain, river, tea, and even tears, illustrating the Buddhist teaching of no birth and no death. Calligraphy is presented as a meditative art in which breathing is integrated into the movement of the brush, so that the finished circle contains breath, tea, and cloud within it. The talk then turns to the management of strong emotions, especially for young people. The speaker stresses that mindfulness should be trained before emotional crisis arises, so that when a storm of anger, fear, or despair appears, one can sit or lie down and use deep belly breathing to calm the body and emotions. The abdomen is compared to the trunk of a tree, while the brain is likened to the swaying top branches in a storm. Attention should be brought down to the navel, where stability can be found. The speaker warns that young people sometimes believe they are only their emotion and may think suicide is the only escape; mindfulness, recollection, and the reminder that one is more than one emotion can save lives. Parents, teachers, and even future technology are imagined as supports for helping children remember to breathe and return to themselves. A substantial portion of the talk explains the relationship between suffering and happiness through the Four Noble Truths. Suffering is not treated as something to be denied or escaped, but as the raw material from which understanding, compassion, and happiness can arise. The speaker uses the image of mud and lotus: without mud, there can be no lotus. Likewise, without suffering, there can be no true happiness. The talk argues that the Kingdom of God, or Buddha land, is not a place without suffering, but a place where beings know how to transform suffering into joy and love. The speaker emphasizes that one should not try to run away from suffering, because suffering is necessary for the growth of compassion and understanding. The Four Noble Truths are interpreted through the lens of interbeing. Ill-being contains the making of ill-being, the path leading to ill-being, and the possibility of well-being. The speaker explains that the second noble truth can also be understood as nutriment: what one consumes through the senses, through edible food, through volition, and through consciousness. Mindful consumption is therefore central to healing. Depression, love, anger, and suffering all survive or die depending on what feeds them. The Five Mindfulness Trainings, especially the fourth training on mindful consumption, are presented as a concrete expression of the Noble Eightfold Path. The talk also develops a philosophical and scientific account of no birth and no death. A cloud cannot truly die because it only transforms into rain, snow, ice, river, or tea. This insight is extended to human beings and beloved ones: what appears to die continues in other forms. The speaker connects this to the law of conservation in physics and cites Lavoisier, suggesting that science and meditation can support one another. Right view, as taught by the Buddha and by the monk Katyayana’s dialogue with the Buddha, is described as the insight that transcends the notions of being and non-being, birth and death, sameness and otherness, coming and going. The final sections expand right view into right thinking, right speech, and right action. A practitioner who sees interbeing can produce thoughts, words, and actions filled with understanding and compassion, free from discrimination and fear. These are not abstract ideals but daily practices that heal oneself and the world. The speaker notes that thoughts, speech, and actions are the true continuation of a person, more than the body itself, and compares this to the way rain continues the cloud. The talk closes by affirming that the Noble Eightfold Path is a path of well-being, and that every step and breath can generate peace, joy, and healing when lived mindfully.
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