…humanity is awaiting us and cheering us on, lending their weight. They're all out there, you know, Proclus and Plotinus and Plato and hypatia and Henry Cornelius Agrippa and John Dee and Robert Flood and Eliaphus Levy, they're all out there pulling for…

…night? A golden ring? Well, the wave is eternity as a golden wave. It's that all time is a standing wave in eternity. Plato said this. He said, time is the moving image of eternity. Means that eternity is some kind of higher dimensional object. And the…

…and flow with the transformation that is upon us, or to create it if it is reluctant to appear on schedule. You know, Plato said if God didn't exist, man would invent him. Well, the western idea of God entails the idea of his entry into history…

…in perception and through technology, shamanically directed and aesthetically critiqued and inspired, I think we will go to it. I think Plato was right. The good and the true are the beautiful. And that beauty, simply the pursuit of beauty with no moral…

…wrote about what he called the more perfect logos. The logos was an informing voice that hellenistic spiritualism took very seriously. And Plato had a demon, and it was an informing voice. But Philo Judeus said, what would be the more perfect logos? And…

…women have of moving their agenda forward. And I don't know how you do anything about this. It's a very difficult problem. Plato, you know. Well, violence without violence to women is like a circus without lions. Violence is a code word. I for violence…

…what I think it is, but it's not really based on physiology or pharmacology. It's based on carefully looking at the experience. Plato said time is the moving image of eternity. And I think that what these psychedelics do is they actually do connect you…

…All information is everywhere. Information that is not here, is nowhere. And that information stands outside of historical time. It's like Plato said, time is the moving image of eternity. Eternity, it does not have a temporal existence, even the kind of…

…we can release this thing once again. I mean, the logos can be unleashed once again, and the voice that spoke to Plato and parmenides and Heraclitus, that voice can speak again in the minds of modern people. And when it does, the alienation will…

…Renaissance steadied itself in the face of the inevitability of modern times was by harking back to Greek and Rome and translating Plato and the dramatists and trying to realize the ideals of greek aesthetics and roman law. What we are trying to do in…

…picture, you know. So the now is kind of like the edge of the pencil as it. Moves over the image. Yes. Well, what did Plato say? That the present is the moving image of eternity. That's pure good platonism. Well, you can think of it as a, you can…

…is obviously, you know, a grab tailor and attacks skate and a jerk. And you say to them, well, you know, have you read Plato or have you studied Nagarjuna? Do you know what Moses mammonides has to say about this? And why do you follow this guy? He…

…want me to tell them this stuff and because I guess this is better than sitting home on a Saturday afternoon and reading. But Plato said it a lot better than I'm saying it, and so did a lot of other people. Civilization is a vast storehouse of wisdom.…

…life, so you never got a second shot. And everybody in the greek world would go at some point in their life, Plato, Aeschylus, Aristotle, the whole gang, everybody had this experience. And at the center of it. Something was drunk and something happened.…

…psychedelic eternity, an information stasis, a kind of standing wave hologram. That is the now. I mean, I believe the poster says, Plato says time is the moving image of eternity. Because we talked about that last time. Julian Janes, who was a psychologist…

…all information is everywhere. Information that is not here is nowhere and that information stands outside of historical time. It's like Plato said: time is the moving image of eternity. Eternity does not have a temporal existence, even the kind of temporal…

…we can release this thing once again. I mean the logos can be unleashed once again and the voice that spoke to Plato and Parmenides and Heraclitus, that voice can speak again in the minds of modern people and when it does the alienation will…

…the noise in novelty would you cite in the past? Oh well the Italian Renaissance the Greek Enlightenment that gave us Plato and aristotle and mathematical theories of nature, eras where invention movements of people and the birth of ideas were very…

…said: you know there has to be another way to do it how can we do it? And they looked back and they discovered Plato and aristotle and the hermetic corpus and all of that and revivified that and roman law and roman architecture and roman technology and…

…your life so you never got a second shot and everybody in the Greek world would go at some point in their life Plato Aeschylus Aristotle the whole gang everybody had this experience and at the center of it something was drunk and something happened and…

…it was just this so you had to be right on to get it because if you were off six weeks you blew the whole thing. Plato said time is the moving image of eternity. I think what he meant to say was: the present is a moving image of eternity but…

…of progress like we're supposed to believe that Heidegger Somehow has a deeper insight into reality than I don't know I wouldn't say Plato, I don't think there's been progress there. But who who what? No I said please don't. It was a bad example. The…

…people were building and the painting styles and the colors and the techniques are very clearly the same. Read Mary Setgast, Plato Prehistorian or James Mallart's book catalhoyuk, a neolithic town in anatolia, and you see that even a kind of burnished ware…

…point then there's a steep descent into novelty on the slope of this thing at the Greek Renaissance, the Renaissance that included Plato and this is not let me say, indo European Specific at the very same moment that Plato was teaching in Athens, Ezekiel…

…Renaissance, the Renaissance that included Plato and this is not let me say, indo European Specific at the very same moment that Plato was teaching in Athens, Ezekiel was active in Israel, Mencius and Lao Tzu were active in china. This was a moment of…

…Now here's a beautiful shot of history's fractal mountain, remember, and now you see it not as minoan Crete falling to mycenaean piracy with Plato here and jesus here and the fall of Rome here but you see it as 1967 up here and the present down here.…

…and something's going on and then it all goes away and you're in this place that your mama never told you and neither did Plato and Philo Judeus and deodorus Siculus. None of the gang prepared you for this. It is the secret. It is the secret as far…

…the plain at Eleusis, a harvest festival. And anyone who was anybody in the graeco roman world experienced this. Plato, Anaximander, Anaximenes, all the dramatists, Aeschylus, Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon, Everybody went to Eleusis and the rules of the game…

…platonic books that had been lost in Europe, the parts of aristotle that had been forgotten, and people like gemisticus Plato and Marcello Ficino under the patronage of Lorenzo De Medici translated these things into vernacular languages and classicism was…

…world of the spirit and the human unconscious. This is the great tension that illuminates Greek Civilization. I mean take Plato as an example because here in one thinker, these distinct strains of thought, these antithetical strains of thought are perfectly…

…the past looking for a stable model and finally they reached the golden age of periclean Athens, and there they found Plato, Aristotle, the dramatist so forth and they created classicism. Now notice that we're talking here about the 1400s. Classicism was…

…Now notice that we're talking here about the 1400s. Classicism was brought to birth in the 1400s 2000 years after the death of Plato and we are still to a tremendous degree we are the children of this classical revival, which we call the Renaissance. Our…

…women have of moving their agenda forward and I don't know how you do anything about this. It's a very difficult problem, Plato, you know well violence without violence to women is like a circus without lions. Violence is code word for violence against…

…not who you are now. The soul is who you are and will be and have been. So it's yourself extended in time. You know Plato said time is the moving image of eternity and what we were doing last night in a way was looking at snapshots of that moving…

…reason, is more like a supercharged thought process. The syntax of its logic is closer to poesis and a poetic process like Plato with his kind of thoughts. So would you talk about the relationship where rationality kicks in and what that's all about? Well…

…it means we're inventing omnipotence. We who began as the mud of a warm pond a billion years ago actually dream of a deity. And Plato was on to this game 2 500 years ago. He said: if god does not exist, man will invent him. In the post humanist…

…one can clear themselves of the momentum of past presupposition the transcendental object at the end of time actually comes into view. Plato said time is the moving image of eternity. The way I think of shamanism and psychedelic voyaging is that it is…

…themselves up they're going to organize the divine process that has been going on for billions of years. So get back to Plato here I like Plato because Plato is the person that right now for me explains the relationships between the psychedelic and the…

…to organize the divine process that has been going on for billions of years. So get back to Plato here I like Plato because Plato is the person that right now for me explains the relationships between the psychedelic and the cybernetic. And certainly mel…

…the divine process that has been going on for billions of years. So get back to Plato here I like Plato because Plato is the person that right now for me explains the relationships between the psychedelic and the cybernetic. And certainly mel seaholst and…

…cybernetic. And certainly mel seaholst and John Barlow are better educated than I am but they helped me here. But to me Plato would say: there is within human consciousness ideas, and ideas are clear they're perfect the platonic idea. And what's in your…

…It shapes everything, and yet nowhere in the world of philosophical discourse is there any genuflection, at least overtly, made to this. Plato talked about shadows on the wall of the cave and so forth and so on. Well, so what can psychedelics and the…

…life so you never got a second shot, and everybody in the Greek world would go at some point in their life. Plato, Aeschylus, Aristotle, the whole gang, everybody had this experience and at the centre of it something was drunk and something happened and…

…Renaissance steadied itself in the Face of the inevitability of modern times was by harking back to Greek and Rome and translating Plato and the dramatists and trying to realize the ideals of Greek Aesthetics and roman law. What we are trying to do in…

…makes sense and if you need help, dead people are more trustworthy than living people you know if you have to have a guru Plato, Kant, John the divine you know but not you know, swami contempo or guru garajki no no, makes no sense at all. We're all…

…last generation to receive what has always been called a traditional liberal education. It means they read John Stuart Mill, Plato, Thomas Hobbes, Aquinas they read all that stuff, the core works of western civilization and they took psychedelics and they…

…fact that the wheel itself as a mathematical model is the paradigm of order, a divine mathematical form according to Plato as the planets were supposed to move before Kepler, who introduced the ellipse. Fantastic transformation, punctual catastrophe in the…

…world the appetition is for beauty, to my mind and this is another place where the platonism shines radiantly through you know because Plato held that the good was the true and that both were the beautiful and this is a very quaint idea from the point…

…would want to stay away from that in the John Stuart Mill tradition. But I think we're going to have to go back to Plato Plato did not trust the poets and the heirs of the poets in our hell bardo are Madison Avenue, because images are being…

…want to stay away from that in the John Stuart Mill tradition. But I think we're going to have to go back to Plato Plato did not trust the poets and the heirs of the poets in our hell bardo are Madison Avenue, because images are being manipulated to…

…But if you think about it it doesn't really make sense to believe everything a hoaxer says. It's rather like the cretan paradox that Plato brought up: if somebody says I am a liar do you believe him? Well the hoaxers in the end claimed to have made…

…in the circuit, there is no blame becoming then what psychedelic means is? It means claiming this dimension as your own. You know Plato said time is the moving image of eternity. That moving image of eternity can be beheld in the silent darkness of the…

…its capacity for conveying intent would be much greater than ordinary spoken language. In other words, it's not for nothing that Plato connected up the notion of the good, the true and ultimately the beautiful and the beautiful of those three concepts is…

…than you can suppose that permits wild orgies of suppositional activity. Well you know one of my favorite quotes comes out of Plato: time is the moving image of eternity. Somebody said time is god's way of keeping everything from happening at once. That's…

…the logos was an informing voice, a voice in the head, which was the sine qua non of alexandrian spirituality. Socrates had it Plato had it the logos. So Philo Judeus asks what would be the more perfect logos and then he answers his own question he…

…know exactly what to do about that you know if you go back to the roots of western civilization and read Plato's Republic, Plato was very suspicious of the poets and did not think those people should be just allowed to run untrammeled over the landscape.…

…this is a rich field of human study called philosophy of science, or epistemology and ontology. How do we know what is real? But Plato, who all the REST of philosophy is a footnote upon Plato said that the key lay in the concepts: the good, the true…

…or epistemology and ontology. How do we know what is real? But Plato, who all the REST of philosophy is a footnote upon Plato said that the key lay in the concepts: the good, the true and the beautiful. The good, what is it? Tricky, tricky, tricky.…

…or another by many, many people, these psychedelic voyagers. People have been there, done that, they have seen the end. You know Plato said time is the moving image of eternity. Time is the moving image of eternity. Shamanism is a worldwide technique, 50…

…of western civilization. Essentially, the American dream perfected itself in my generation. I came out of the University, I had read Plato, Hobbes, Schopenhauer, Jeremy Bent the whole bit. I knew it backwards and forwards. And what did we do we people who…

…that stand between us and that presupposed naked, radiant truth that has more or less driven the engines of western thought since Plato. Of course the great victory of modernity is to disabuse ourselves of such naive notions, but they die hard. I think…

…time now if you want to follow, if you just can't tear yourself away from the concept of following, then how about Plato, Heraclitus, Parmenides, Plotinus, Proclus you know dead guys they're much safer. They're not going to try and climb into your wallet…

…a hyperdimensional medium which is composed of energy and language and into which we can all cast ourselves at will. It is you know Plato said if god didn't exist, man would invent him or it. Well it may well be that the pilot's seat, the pilot's chair…

…from democracy and atomism. In other words they are thorough going materialists. Their social theory is drawn from Epictetus and Plato. They are in fact extremely modern people by our own standards. However, among the gardeners and kitchen help and stable…

…to be expressed here. First of all, something about god, that god knows that god exists in a Superior state of intellection. Plato said time is the moving image of eternity. My notion of god's cognition is simply the regarding of all points in the…

…Renaissance steadied itself in the Face of the inevitability of modern times was by harking back to Greek and Rome and translating Plato and the dramatists and trying to realize the ideals of Greek Aesthetics and roman law. What we are trying to do in…

…outside the cultural illusion. It's a breathtaking possibility because nobody knows what's outside the cultural illusion. I mean, you know Plato got it right: we are chained in a cave watching the flickering shadows of something. But life taken with…

…that there is something called the nunc stans, the eternal now and that somehow well this all goes back to this wonderful thing which Plato said. Plato said time is the moving image of eternity, and my notion of what this is all about is that the time…

…is something called the nunc stans, the eternal now and that somehow well this all goes back to this wonderful thing which Plato said. Plato said time is the moving image of eternity, and my notion of what this is all about is that the time wave we…

…we're going to have to you know seriously consider how to deal with modern technology's ability to rig the election. You know Plato, who we all give lip service to, was very suspicious of what he called the poets. He didn't think that everybody should…

…is the relationship of ergotized beer or mushrooms to the eleusinian mysteries which put their stamp on the thinking of Plato, Aristotle, Aeschylus Aristophanes, the whole pantheon of Greek Thinkers? And then you see in cold Europe a cultural aberration…

…two for our consideration right now and that is the world soul and the individual soul let us say in the perspective of Plato or the neoplatonists. In fact let's just think about the world soul first because that is more important for us politically at…

…universe. So the world soul is an idea from ancient times which is primarily about the planet earth in the geocentric model of Plato. So we have now a world that we walk around which is completely devoid of anything except energy and matter, and the…

…Consciousness unfolds itself from the three dimensional locus of evolutionary paranoia into a higher dimensional intellectual super space, which is what Plato called or had in mind when he said: time is the moving image of eternity. We are locked down into…

…of magical humanity is awaiting us and cheering us on lending their weight. They're all out there you know: Proclus, Epitonius, Plato, Octavius, Henry Cornelius, Eurydice, John Dee, Robert flood and Elias levy they're all out there pulling for us and every…

…the logos, and the logos was an informing voice, a voice in the head that told you the right way to live and Plato and all of these heavies cultivated and achieved connection with the logos. Well there was an alexandrine jew named Philo Judeus who was…

…some curious thing going on with the number five. You know in the Timaeus, as people are coming in and sitting down for dinner, Plato turns to Timaeus and he says: the one generates the two and the two the three, but where oh where is the fourth my…

…city in the ancient world, most especially the ideal city of Plato's Republic. So casually we might call that utopian fantasy. Although Plato did try to actually realize it in the political organization of a particular city, he ended up in jail for that…

…good reason for this but had you been there I'm sure you would understand completely. And now back to Terrence, going back to Plato to say that if god did not exist, human beings would create god. We are creating god, our cultural machinery, our dreams…

…in Syria and Asia Minor forgotten and untranslated for centuries, were brought to the florentine council by people like Gemistus Plato and others and translated, and classicism was born, its laws, its philosophy, its aesthetics, and we are the inheritors of…

…that was available throughout the dark and middle ages. All the REST was lying untranslated in Syrian Monasteries until Gemistus Plato in 1490 brought these manuscripts to Florence, to the court of the domeniches, and then the translation project began. Now…

…this strain of thought before the 1460s. And the importance of hermetic thinking can be seen by the fact that Gemistus Plato brought Plato to the florentine council as well as Hermes Trismegistus. And when Marcello Ficino sat down to do this translation…

…of thought before the 1460s. And the importance of hermetic thinking can be seen by the fact that Gemistus Plato brought Plato to the florentine council as well as Hermes Trismegistus. And when Marcello Ficino sat down to do this translation work Cosimo…

…council as well as Hermes Trismegistus. And when Marcello Ficino sat down to do this translation work Cosimo De Medici said: Plato can wait, I'm getting old. You do the hermetic corpus first. That's much more important. We'll sort out this Plato Business…

…women have of moving their agenda forward. And I don't know how you do anything about this it's a very difficult problem, Plato, you know well violence without violence to women is like a circus without lions. Violence is code word for violence against…

…interested that you start your description of the imagination from the cosmic attractor, which sounds to me like a combination of Plato, Thomas Taylor and Teilhard De Chardin. It's the idea of the omega point and Teilhard De Chardin is the attractor of…

…less the temperature of the planet earth or it's regularly changing in a circle, a divine mathematical form according to Plato, as the planets were supposed to move before Kepler who introduced the ellipse. Fantastic transformation, punctual catastrophe in the…

…world the appetition is for beauty, to my mind and this is another place where the platonism shines radiantly through you know because Plato held that the good was the true and that both were the beautiful and this is a very quaint idea from the point…

…mystical insight beyond the personal, you probably enter into the domain of inflation, of some kind of psychological inflation. So was Plato inflated? Was Plato inflated? No, probably not, but he probably gets a pass as some kind of pioneer. You could just…

…beyond the personal, you probably enter into the domain of inflation, of some kind of psychological inflation. So was Plato inflated? Was Plato inflated? No, probably not, but he probably gets a pass as some kind of pioneer. You could just start out by…

…like Greece at its most clear and philosophically brilliant. This is called classicism. It was invented in the 1400s 2000 years after Plato taught. Suddenly it was decided in Europe that a platonic society would be created and we are the inheritors of that…

…magical humanity is awaiting us and cheering us on lending their weight. They're all out there you know Proclus and Plotinus and Plato and Hypatia and Henry Cornelius Agrippa and John Dee and Robert flood and eliaphus levy they're all out there pulling for…

…kind of psychedelic eternity, an information stasis a kind of standing wave hologram. That is the now, I believe the poster says Plato says time is the moving image of eternity because we talked about that last time. Julian Jaynes who was a psychologist…

…I think soon I shall be pulling away from this meeting. Thank you very much. The platonic doctrine: you know that Plato proves that the slave understood geometry without ever having been taught by asking him certain questions. The doctrine of recollection:…

…maybe, because you see, the earth is a prison and we are threatened by toxicity and plutonium and all these wonderful things. Plato on the other hand, thought that the minimum governable size of the human population was 50 000 people. Now which is more…

…formally brought them to the attention of western science, he also wrote about this phenomenon, but for that matter so did Plato in discussing the logos for hellenic human beings. This experience of an interiorized guiding voice with a higher level of…

…and the 60s. This is really, as Ahab tells the crew in moby dick this is what you've shipped for me. This was the plan. Plato said: if god does not exist, man will create such a thing. And we are creating a simulacrum of our highest hopes and the…

…the trade school and the trade union. There would be maybe some spiritual elite, some professors of moral philosophy we would have Plato and Socrates would be leading a workshop, something like that then I could see that it fits in this mode, but somehow…

…you're talking about the exact membrane that is between time and non time. Is that true? Yeah pretty much. I mean you know Plato said time is the moving image of eternity, it's a wave front and it's an interference pattern. Yes it's a kind of hologram…

…third, ninety ninth I have no idea what that means. Let's answer first umm 526 b c. Oh it's the Greek Renaissance, It's Plato, Pythagoras, Ezekiel Confucius, Lao Tzu. Hey I think it's time to knock off. You should quit when you're ahead you know, yes…

…hallucination, which I am, I mean if it doesn't do that I'm not interested. And then I thought the way into it is: Plato talks about the good, the true and the beautiful, but the key concept is beautiful because good, it's abstract. True, it's abstract…

…should give a Universal Education to everybody and they discovered that if you do that, if you take everybody and make them read Plato and John Stuart Mill and Voltaire and Hobbes as we did, that you can't rule such people. They take it too seriously,…

…where we are becoming the objects of our imagination. We are, through cultural evolution, actually creating our own eschatology. You know Plato said if god didn't exist man would invent him. Well there are many different kinds of gods for humanity to invent…

…input from the living world. We are always casting away from ourselves. What do the experts say? What did buddha say? What did Plato say? What did somebody on the other side of the world what are they saying? Now we give ourselves away and the reason…

…someone who brings to the idea a complete cosmological model generated in the past ten years by themselves alone? They never read Plato they know no mathematics, they never read the Bible, they never read Wittgenstein they just got it all in one download.…

…the noise in novelty would you cite in the past? Oh well the Italian Renaissance, the Greek Enlightenment that gave us Plato and aristotle and mathematical theories of nature, eras where invention, movements of people and the birth of ideas were very…

…arcane form of mathematical anxiety and it's based on the conception of mathematics I mean it hasn't advanced past the time of Plato because your objection to models for chaos is based on inappropriate view of this platonic ideals. There are too many of…

…into existence by a process of evolution and discovery and I don't think it would be at all appropriate to suggest that Plato or anyone before the invention of the computer could even imagine these. You see so it's part of the evolutionary, the creative…

…I have found the only way to pass forward is by living my life. No one has stepped from the mortal coil. Time is moving. Plato said time is the moving image of eternity and so eternity is outside the wheel. And that is what I mean by this higher…

…this is, I think a really important aspect of the peculiarity of our culture, that back in those neoplatonic times we had Plato and aristotle. They argued they had completely different points like one is North south the other is East west or something…

…this and the traditional doctrine of the world's soul is that in the traditional doctrine of the world's soul of Plotinus and of Plato they had a three fold system where there was the intellect with the intelligence which was really the realm of forms or…

…language as well. Certainly, mathematics preceded writing and in mathematics we have, for example, a circle, a line I mean these are for Plato, the ideal ideals. So do we need writing on stone to think of a line or a circle or a triangle as being…

…its innermost holiest chamber the temple, the clemisterium, not one of the multitudes that were initiated ever divulged. Pausanias, Plato, Roman emperors like Hadrian, Marcus Aurelius and many others known thinkers of antiquity were taught to this initiation.…

…is true as what does it mean? What does it do for us here? Well to me I mean I'm basically philosophically a platonist and Plato said: the good and the true are the beautiful. The good and the true are the beautiful. So what psychedelics do for me is…

…and yet nowhere in the world of philosophical discourse is there any genuflection, at least overtly, made to this. Maybe not since Plato talked about shadows on the wall of the cave and so forth and so on. Well, so what can psychedelics and the…

…of thing, read the 10th book of the Republic, the myth of Ur. Do any of you recall what's going on there? This is Plato, he's at this banquet, and then the conversation takes this sudden left turn, and he tells this story about this guy, Ur, who was…

…of fluff that freaks me out is where you get one person who never read the Old Testament, never read Plato, doesn't understand mathematics, music, history, art, literature, religion, economics or philosophy, but they have all the answers. Because when they…

…be by transforming ourselves in this way we bring ever closer the final apocatastic. No one has stepped from the mortal coil. Yes Plato said time is the moving image of eternity and so eternity is outside the wheel, and that is what I mean by this…

…us to the future yes I think so. I mean I'm basically on this issue fairly platonic. I mean I think that you know Plato said time is the moving image of eternity, and that I think is probably true that eternity is all time and it somehow exists…

…to Syria and bring back these manuscripts and they established a translation commission and they had in manuscript the works of Plato, the works of Hermes Trismegistus a whole bunch of ancient literature and to show you what the psychology of the…

…Trismegistus a whole bunch of ancient literature and to show you what the psychology of the Renaissance was. Here they had Plato, which they hadn't been able to read for a thousand years, sitting there waiting for translation. And Cosimo De Medici said…

…been able to read for a thousand years, sitting there waiting for translation. And Cosimo De Medici said to Marcello Ficino: Plato can wait, translate the hermetic corpus first. And so it was done. If you're interested in Renaissance Hermeticism you can't…

…is a group of philosophers in the 3rd and 4th century who Plotinus, Porphyry, Proclus and that crowd, and they took Plato, the late Plato, and contorted that into a mystical doctrine of emanation. They were what are called emanationists. What this means…

…of philosophers in the 3rd and 4th century who Plotinus, Porphyry, Proclus and that crowd, and they took Plato, the late Plato, and contorted that into a mystical doctrine of emanation. They were what are called emanationists. What this means is you start…

…this is, I think a really important aspect of the peculiarity of our culture, that back in those neoplatonic times we had Plato and aristotle. They argued they had completely different, like one is North South the other is East west or something. Together…

…to me to be in that sense trans temporal it is an anticipation of the future. It is as though Plato's Metaphor were true. Plato said: time is the moving image of eternity. The tryptamine state is as though you step out of the moving image and into…

…you what I think it is but it's not really based on physiology or pharmacology it's based on carefully looking at the experience. Plato said time is the moving image of eternity. And I think that what these psychedelics do is they actually do do connect…

…creation of the moment is, it's in the process of obviating and denying it and seeking to go beyond it. And I think it was Plato I'm not sure he said it first but said: if god does not exist, human beings will create god. Well I think the truth is…

…is and what we are really capable of, and I'm not afraid of this at all because I think. Well basically I'm a platonist and Plato identified the good and the true and the beautiful as the same thing. But notice it's very hard to know what is good and…

…matter how much agony it causes individuals. Yeah well last night what I said was that I was a platonist and that Plato felt that the world was approached through three paths: the good, the true and the beautiful. But that goodness is controversial and…

…world of the spirit and the human unconscious. This is the great tension that illuminates Greek Civilization. I mean take Plato as an example because here in one thinker these distinct strains of thought, these antithetical strains of thought are perfectly…

…the past looking for a stable model and finally they reached the golden age of periclean Athens, and there they found Plato, Aristotle, the dramatists, so forth and they created classicism. Now notice that we're talking here about the 1400s. Classicism was…

…that we're talking here about the 1400s. Classicism was brought to birth in the 1400s, two thousand years after the death of Plato and we are still, to a tremendous degree, we are the children of this classical revival which we call the Renaissance. Our…

…no inflationary feedback into the ego and this is the kind of opportunity that the psychedelic opens up. I've said many times, quoting Plato: time is the moving image of eternity, time is the moving image of eternity. What the shaman does is he or she…

…We are not waiting for it to begin. It has already happened for us and our job is to understand how that can be so. Plato said time is the moving image of eternity. My notion of shamanism is: it is that state of mind which accrues to those who have…

…to Syria and bring back these manuscripts and they established a translation commission and they had in manuscript the works of Plato, the works of Hermes Trismegistus, a whole bunch of ancient literature and to show you what the psychology of the…

…Trismegistus, a whole bunch of ancient literature and to show you what the psychology of the Renaissance was here they had Plato, which they hadn't been able to read for a thousand years, sitting there waiting for translation. And Cosimo De Medici said…

…been able to read for a thousand years, sitting there waiting for translation. And Cosimo De Medici said to Marcello Ficino: Plato can wait, translate the hermetic corpus first. And so it was done. If you're interested in Renaissance Hermeticism, you can't…

…which is a group of philosophers in the 3rd and 4th century Plotinus, Porphyry, Proclus and that crowd and they took Plato, the late Plato, and contorted that into a mystical doctrine of emanation. They were what are called emanationists. What this means…

…group of philosophers in the 3rd and 4th century Plotinus, Porphyry, Proclus and that crowd and they took Plato, the late Plato, and contorted that into a mystical doctrine of emanation. They were what are called emanationists. What this means is you start…

…the logos in the hellenistic period and the logos was an informing voice. And all the great thinkers of hellenistic Times Plato, Socrates, Xenophon, Thucydides, all of these people were in contact with the logos. It was the sine qua non of hellenistic…

…but we don't have a thousand years to unravel this thing. It is a sinking submarine. Chatter is now out of bounds. Plato said time is the moving image of eternity. And my model for these psychedelics is if you push me, ultimately mathematical. I…

…Of the 53 texts 41 were unknown in any other version. Of those that were known, there was some of the late Plato, there was portions of Matthew but what was interesting were these previously unknown texts some of which were very close to gospel…

…on ancient philosophy, these books by MacLean. The myth of invariance is one of them. It's a study of mathematics in Plato and the rig Veda and it's all musical mathematics. They were studying proportion, harmony, relationship. Now notice that in this…

…that gives permission for all the memes to compete. I mean democracy is very close to the heart of any anarchist. You know, Plato said you can always tell a democracy when you approach them from the sea because unchained dogs run on the wharf. Well what…

…All information is everywhere information that is not here is nowhere and that information stands outside of historical time. It's like Plato said: time is the moving image of eternity. Eternity does not have a temporal existence even the kind of temporal…

…we can release this thing once again. I mean the logos can be unleashed once again and the voice that spoke to Plato and Parmenides and Heraclitus, that voice can speak again in the minds of modern people and when it does, the alienation will…

…religions and various hysterias and seeping ideas into highly tuned nervous systems. How does it do that? Well it's as though, like Plato said time is the moving image of eternity. It does it because in its dimension all these things are somehow co…

…the logos was an informing voice a voice in the head, which was the sine qua non of alexandrian spirituality. Socrates had it Plato had it: the logos. So Philo Judeus asks what would be the more perfect logos? And then he answers his own question he…

…cannot do anything about. So I think these drugs anticipate this because I think that time is the moving image of eternity, as Plato said, and these drugs place you outside of time. Now the mechanism of how that's done you can invoke Bell's Theorem or…