…also, it. It became summertime, and it stopped working. I started taking it in early December. A drug salesman had dumped a bunch on my brother, and I went back to see him, and we had a long conversation, and he wanted me to try it, and I tried it.…

…that you need somebody to take you by the hand. And he's a good guy. It's a good book. It's worth looking over. My brother, he suggested forming a nanotech company that would be called IBM, Izdemez, itty bitty machines. Does it not say there, did they…

…it down with the statistical turning of cards. There is a way, probably involving drugs where you just can lock into the other person. My brother pulled a stunt where he not only he didn't read my mind, he found a memory of mine that I had never told…

…ago at Cal. They had a PET scan, and they wanted to create positron hot drugs and give them to human beings. And my brother was involved in that. But the funding never gelled. Now, we could answer a lot of these kinds of questions. See, I think that…

…That's why if you really want to liberate yourself from the illegal and toxic cycle of drug production, you should grow mushrooms. My brother and I wrote a book called Psilocybin, Magic Mushroom Growers Guide. If you want to get into alchemy, this is real…

…shifts the electron spin resonance signature of large areas of neural tissue and I believe, based on the work of my brother that's described in the invisible landscape that this shift in the electron spin resonance is the crude signature of thought that…

…by unclaimed psychedelic plants because if they're unclaimed you can claim them that was the situation with strepharia cubensis. My brother and I wrote the book about how to cultivate strepharia cubensis in 1975. It was essentially unclaimed because the…

…I mean what I'm thinking of as I talk to you is an incident which is described in true hallucinations, where my brother, while intoxicated in the Amazon, he starts into a conversation. He's having a conversation with himself and 30 seconds into it I…

…interested you have to. Buy the book to find out but it was not something I would have told anyone, certainly not my brother. And there he is and he's taking both voices and he's doing it perfectly. This is more than telepathy. He's not reading my…

…is part of the reform of Hinduism that squashed the vedic period's dependency on ecstasy. I don't know, phew what's your brother up to what's my brother up to? My brother Dennis, Who's a pharmaceutical chemist, molecular biologist, drug designer. He was…

…That's why if you really want to liberate yourself from the illegal and toxic cycle of drug production, you should grow mushrooms. My brother and I wrote a book called psilocybin magic mushroom grower's guide. If you want to get into alchemy, this is real…

…head, not much of one but an uncomfortable situation to be in. So then I went to the Amazon for the first time with my brother and a couple of friends who came with me from the states, and then we quickly made common cause with a woman down there…

…order of nature and we began to discover what the order of nature actually is and it took the form of an idea which my brother Dennis Who's the pharmacologist of the gang although he wasn't at the time he has gone on to become the person he most was…

…butterflies in and none would come. And these people would just say, oh god it's just it's getting worse and worse and worse. Your brother is nuts. You have delusions of grand this is pathetic, I mean this is a mind in wreckage this is the green hell…

…but just shut up about it or you're not going to make it through. Well eventually everybody else sort of renegotiated themselves back to some kind of reality. My brother flew back to the states and I was in a sense left in the Amazon to mull all this.

…the somewhat confining atmosphere of the mission, we rested past a joint around and planned our next move. In conversations with the brother, Dave and vanessa had learned that there was a quite sturdy witoto house unused and lying down the trail toward the…

…see all that you believe about reality changed around by these compounds. It is edifying and excitement is a reasonable reaction. My brother and I had been close over the years and especially close since our mother's death. Yet there were experiences that…

…particular plant? For instance a case about which we'll hear a lot this weekend because I will talk about it and tomorrow my brother will come in and talk about it as well is this drug complex in South America called ayahuasca, where two plants are…

…and surround it with taboos and ritual and you're off and running. All the elements are present. This may be true. My brother has wanted to go farther and suggest that consciousness itself may be a kind of self reinforcing feedback loop that has…

…is the proper path and I believe this it's not to believe, it's to test. I said to the mushroom once: why us? Meaning my brother and me, why us? And it said: because you don't believe in anything. You know you're not a believer and so it's a real…

…to do that. There is considerable irrefutable evidence that it makes very long term changes on the dendritic processes of the nerve. My brother is a research pharmacologist. He did much of that work in Stephen Perutka's lab at Stanford. So as far as what…

…promises humanity's eventual mastery over time space and matter. We in our clumsy attempt to probe these mysteries we meaning my brother and myself were able to coax nature into throwing out this great burning scintilla of pure contradiction from the dark…

…metal and the shaman and the alchemist I mean I'm sorry the shaman and the smith in primitive cultures are always associated as brother figures. They both work in metals. Well what all this means for us, beyond the commitment to our own sort of ordering…

…and who they screwed over. And when you're asked to identify with your culture. You're asked to take this on. I reject it. My brother years ago invented this term. He called it extra environmental. He said: this is what we want to be we don't want to…

…particular plant? For instance, a case about which we'll hear a lot this weekend because I will talk about it and tomorrow my brother will come in and talk about it as well is this drug complex in South America called ayahuasca, where two plants are…

…source of the experience and surround it with taboos and ritual and you're off and running, all the elements are present. My brother has wanted to go farther and suggest that consciousness itself may be a kind of self reinforcing feedback loop. That has…

…language through psychedelic drugs is a central factor of the evolution of the social matrix of the REST of the century. My brother is working on the theory, putting together the argument for the idea that actually human history has always been mediated by…

…will pretty much put the whole thing to bed. Well I'm here to tell you that things are stranger than we suppose. My brother made a wonderful geometric metaphor once he said: have you ever noticed how as the sphere of understanding expands, necessarily the…

…now the leading western country. This indicates a cultural crisis of some depth for the ideals of the American Constitution. My brother is a brain scientist at the national institute of mental health in bethesda, Maryland, the crown jewel of American Brain…

…a formal mathematical proof, and so we must live in the light of the fact that we cannot know everything about anything. My brother put this beautifully once when he said: have you ever noticed how as the sphere of understanding expands, the surface area…

…larger? With all due respect, you just mentioned something I was going to ask you about. I'm very interested in the work your brother was doing and what happened with him and where I could get some information on the work he was doing. Also does it…

…Write me a letter about them if I should know about them just to elaborate briefly, there was somebody who was studying it's a brother of a friend who I just found out about who was studying for his Ph D in linguistic anthropology about 18 years ago…

…still hears voices and never been the same and they are. I was thinking well maybe they're Indian voices so I asked his brother and he said no they're American, They're English as far as if it's messages that he's. So you know they're all pretty much…

…and that's where I would put all of my attention. And you know even in that domain you have to be somewhat careful. My brother and I spent years tracking down a hallucinogen in the Amazon called ukuhe. That was an orally active form of DMT which we…

…I mean there is so much to be learned and so little work being done because it's not sanctioned. I mean my brother is a pharmaceutical chemist, pharmacologist, plant physiologist, and his professional life is very touch and go because he's known to be a…

…There's obviously a relationship between the drugs used in a society and what the society does. Well we were talking last night. My brother wants to say, and is in fact publicly lectured to this point, that the missing link in the question of how did…

…and generating states of equilibrium and good health from it so we have some land in Hawaii and are working with my brother Dennis, and trying to bring as many psychoactive plants together there as we possibly can to grow them, to have sufficient biomass…

…That's why if you really want to liberate yourself from the illegal and toxic cycle of drug production, you should grow mushrooms. My brother and I wrote a book called psilocybin magic mushroom grower's guide. If you want to get into alchemy this is real…

…atom, all of these metaphors of violence and unrestrained domination as though somehow nature has to be violated to be understood. My brother, whom some of you know I'm sure is a brilliant neurochemist and biochemist, said something to me once which has…

…it has to be a forward escape. A forward escape through technology but technology that serves an agenda of archaic revivalism. My brother was just here this weekend and after we presented publicly then we spent a long night talking over all of this…

…what's under the board, the tricks of the trade. You're being turned into not a full member of the society but what my brother has called an extra environmental you're coming from outside, and this is a kind of maturity that many people never, not only…

…harder to map and people who fiddle with the pure compound are obviously really intrepid. It seems to be about some kind of my brother described it very well the other night. He seems to be susceptible to it some people are and some aren't and he was…

…more of a higher consciousness rather than the original, which was the union with everything or something. Well one of the things my brother mentioned this weekend to me was the idea that maybe we could come to a place where every eye that looks out at…

…And this is our problem, not that we produce waste but that we produce it too fast. One of the things my brother pointed out was if you really believe nanotechnology is coming, then the shrewdest investment that you can make are landfills, because…

…hits of an illegal drug. Suddenly this is the realm of governments and criminal syndicates and revolutionary disruption of populations. My brother and I wrote psilocybin, the magic mushroom grower's guide. If you work like a dog for six months maybe you…

…that isn't understood about how all this works. Something worth pointing out you know science seeks closure and explanation, explanatory closure. My brother one time made a little aphorism which I think says it all on this subject. He said to me once…

…at evergreen college years ago grew stropharycubensis by the method that's described in my book the book I wrote with my brother. And what they discovered? See psilocybin is 4 phosphoryloxy n n dimethyltryptamine. That phosphorus group is removed as soon as…

…it's made from the resin of varroa trees. The inner bark of the varroa sheds a red resin and we eventually, in 1981, my brother and I and wade Davis, the guy who wrote the serpent and the rainbow we all launched an expedition up the Rio Yaguas yasu…

…semi divine seeress priestess, who said: this dream symbolizes the one who is going to be born who will be your counterpart your brother, your equal like unto you like your very self, gilgamesh had said in the dream he bent down to pick up the star…

…dies and gilgamesh goes crazy and tears off his hair his clothes and starts wandering through the wilderness crying his name and enkidu, my brother my friend my other self has died, has died. What shall I do? I must go on the great journey to find the…

…not measured by the authenticity of the culture the woman or man who is a shaman it depends on their unique personality. My brother once suggested that a good definition for a shaman would be an extra environmental and that this is the attitude to…

…language through psychedelic drugs is a central factor of the evolution of the social matrix of the REST of the century. My brother is working on the theory, putting together the argument for the idea that actually human history has always been mediated by…

…them are amplified into a higher cortical experience which is the hallucinogenic experience. But in answer to your question, my brother went beyond this and hypothesized that you could intervene in this process which normally you would expect to be quenched…

…metal. And the shaman and the alchemist I mean I'm sorry the shaman and the smith in primitive cultures are always associated as brother figures. They both work in metals. Well what all this means for us beyond the commitment to our own sort of ordering…

…and who they screwed over. And when you're asked to identify with your culture, you're asked to take this on. I reject it. My brother, years ago, invented this term. He called it extra environmental. He said: this is what we want to be. We don't want…

…mushroom also is a symbol in our culture of death and destruction, being the symbol of the nuclear explosion, the mushroom cloud. My brother has made the point, asking: you know what mushroom is it that grows at the end of history? Is it the mushroom…

…you can recommend that involves the seeds of current growers? Well, two books I would recommend. The book I wrote with my brother called philosybin magic mushroom grower's guide is still in print from quickpress. They have an 800 number here in the city…

…In Brazil they have studies taking ayahuasca while you're pregnant and they also deliver a little bit of ayahuasca. That's right. My brother did a study actually Lawrence Rockefeller paid for much of it a study of these maestres in Brazil, these santo…

…this terrible dilemma because we were you know, a thousand miles up the real baboon asshole with no airplanes and no radios and here my brother proceeds to go nuts and I'm saying it's okay but the world may end in a few days and on and on. It took…

…hell. You will not be promoted, your colleagues will look upon you as a freak you will find yourself. You know my brother can talk to this point. It's not a pleasant thing to associate yourself with psychedelics professionally. Yeah I guess something that…

…out over these valleys and mountains and so forth trying to spot something and finally across the valley they see what my brother assumes is a car come around the corner because they see the headlights, and so they descend down into this canyon. It…

…more work to do. Well that's enough I think. Well you have to somehow exercise that invisible muscle that tolerates strangeness. My brother had the notion of what he called extra environmentalism. He said the reason we are fascinated by the alien is…

…head not much of one. But an uncomfortable situation to be in. So then I went to the Amazon for the first time with my brother and a couple of friends who came with me from the states and then we quickly made common cause with a woman down there and…

…and we began to discover what the order of nature actually is and it took the form of an idea, which was which my brother Dennis Who's the pharmacologist of the gang although he wasn't at the time he has gone on to become the person he most was…

…butterflies in and none would come and these people would just say, oh god it's just it's getting worse and worse and worse. Your brother is nuts you have delusions of grand this is pathetic I mean this is a mind in wreckage. This is the green hell…

…it or you're not going to make it through. Well eventually everybody else sort of renegotiated themselves back to some kind of reality. My brother flew back to the states and I was in a sense left in the Amazon to mull all this. So is there unfinished…

…words and yet it seems to me aren't you talking about rather than you talking about it yes well that's a good question. My brother said a funny thing one time. He said: has anybody noticed that as you expand the sphere of understanding, the surface area…

…would be a way to learn that thing, that you could do it on Thursday Morning instead of Saturday Night isn't? That what your brother was trying to do with the sounds in the Amazon see, there is something going on here because in the pineal gland harmin…

…and mushrooms were not available. Psilocybin was rare as hen's teeth until 1975. I mean I know because I sought it and my brother and I wrote the book that we did specifically so that people could have mushrooms and I know who our competitors were and…