…in very much. Very rarely let them in. But they were very orderly. They did good weaving. They were sort of like David Barrows in their characters. And they brought in their pardius, their good farmers, They were a good community, orderly and decent, and…

…it's really hard. I hate the afternoon session. It's just that the evening session is worse. They feed you too well here, that's it. David Cooper Fries came after I'd cleared my roster with The Office, but he was always on there. Do I have to go back…

…interface for you with the Esalen folks do we have the people who are missing Well, that's what I'm about to see. Is David Cooper-Fries, did he show up? And the other person... Somebody came in late last night and knocked on our door upstairs. Hi,…

…miserable experience, getting here. Except for Mount Shasta, it was so beautiful. Okay. Oh, great, okay. So Don showed up, and David didn't. If not, I wanted to add something to how I presented myself yesterday. I wanted to say what also attracted…

…as the history of a dynasty. It is all of these things. And what many, many general systems theorists have done and what David did last night with his diagram is most general systems theorists, if you press them, will pull a diagram out of their pocket.…

…to hear from someone who comes in from outside of the group to share their take on the kinds of things that we're concerned with. David and I have talked a little bit about the I Ching when we were together at Ojai a few months ago, but basically we…

…together at Ojai a few months ago, but basically we only discovered our mutual interest in it and then we were parted. David is involved in computers and in the writing of forecasting software for use by management. So we're talking here about a whole…

…talking here about a whole different slant on the application of forecasting techniques and for an entirely different kind of public. David wrote a book called The Sphinx and the Rainbow. How would you describe it? The subtitle is Brain, Mind, and Future…

…tonight as well. She and I appeared at Ohio a few months ago, but she's getting ready to fly off to LA. However, David Lloyd. Let's see. Now, you've been on I Ching since, what, around 10 this morning? That's right. Yeah. Well, I presume that either…

…give this side of the room five to try to share, and this side five. And I'll hang on to one of them here. David, are you familiar with the Elliott Wave theory, the Elliott Wave program in predicting the stock market? No. just curious if that might…

…of morphogenetic fields as anything in Sheldrake, actually. Do we know who originally came up with the legend? No, we have legends. David referred to the story of the imprisonment of King Wen. He was the last of the Zhou emperors, and he was imprisoned…

…a minute. How come that light is still on? It's off. Oh, now it's doing it. It just had some weird... Yeah, four here. And David will be leaving at noon, so say goodbye to him. Thank you very much for coming down. Thank you. to our fairly funky art…

…the number five? Well, it was for some reason excluded, as I said, from the first order of difference. But this is interesting, David, this thing about the five stages, because one of the commentaries on one of the hexagrams So this must be a later…

…or any part of the morning session, if you want. When are you reconvening? At 10 o'clock tomorrow morning, right here. Otherwise, David will stay overnight and be around at breakfast. And if any of you have a particular interest in forecasting or systems…

…be around at breakfast. And if any of you have a particular interest in forecasting or systems theory or that sort of thing, David is your man. He's worked with Prigogine, Laszlo, all of these people. Did you know Eric Yonch? Did we ever talk about…

…kind of quantized potential leap in our epistemic capacity to define reality. And that with the kind of general systems talk that David was doing, and with this kind of thing, and with the catastrophe theories of Abraham and Sean, with the fractals of…

…should be forthrightly denounced as such. Half the room grows tensely silent. Half the room yucks it up. Hey, listen, if brother David can sit there grinning through this kind of thing, I think you can handle it. We're comrades in arms. In fact, we've…

…in which to meet it is silent darkness. And people, you know, go bowling, they go out to see a movie, they watch David Letterman. I mean, it's true. I mean, we've given workshops where it was specifically to be about psilocybin or something like that.…

…perceptions, for instance, I've been studying people's ability to perceive signals from the earth and then look at reverse speech with David Oates and his findings that we are very much sexual beings in the underlying areas where reverse speech comes out.…

…going on for a long, long time in the west. We listened the other night to the fourth chapter of Daniel when brother David read it. We had talked about the apocalypse of John of Patmos, Hieronymus Bosch sailing to Byzantium, Finian's waves. All of these…

…door, don't walk through it. You think you want to go through there instead? Go around to the other one. That was very helpful. David, did you want to introduce the theme? Yeah. Good. Do it. I actually made a few notes. I suggested the idea of talking…

…having these things and I'm not eating anything. It just comes on. It's very scary for me. And from the time, you know, and David, I really feel for what you were saying, because I'm scared to death, because since I was like 15 in high school, and…

…to work with me. And he took me under his wing for six weeks and worked with me every other day. And what I had then, David, was I had permission to go through it and he was going to be there with me. And then Dick died. You know, he hiked Monday,…

…you say, you know, it's. I don't know. Maybe I read too much hp Lovecraft as a kid, and it contaminated my categories. David said that is sort of away from psychedelics, but on this vein of discovery, something that maybe we, maybe I keep myself from…

…it. It's no rap on them, it's just the nature of it that they distort it. And some distort it horribly, a Hitler, a David Korish, and some distort it. Maybe we like to think less a Buddha, a mahavira, but the point is, they all distort it. Marshall…

…he said, I have oysters packed in ice. I have belgian chocolate. And he had gotten a job dishwashing that morning at the King David Hotel and had just quit in disgust halfway through the day and had raided this super fancy four star hotel and just had…

…You did that very well. Thank you, Great, Terrence Terrence can I get you to stay there just for a SEC where you were with David? They want us back right here, don't talk and just give me 10 seconds or 20 seconds. Okay don't talk, I'm beyond. It's an…

…it might be time to you know I miss a kind of critical evaluation where everyone's very polite, you know and saying well as brother David said and well as you mean no one would dare stand up and say: my god you're not going to sing a song at the…

…growing psilocybin and men are growing mushrooms, and it just kind of sparked something in me. Do you have a connection with the David Realms, the nature spirits? Is that something that comes up for you in this work? Well I don't know. Is a self…

…control and present themselves as independent entities, I'm not sure he's ever seen a self transforming elf machine. Are those David Kempities, do you think? Yeah, I don't have any hallucinogenic experience myself I'm more familiar with human connections in…

…existential embeddedness in history, the sense of loss of control and plants like Amanita muscaria, Wasson's Candidate for soma, pagamon harmala, David Flattery's candidate for soma, this book that I asked Cameron to look at some of the REST of you may be…

…crisis in the natural world caused by the uncontrolled and unmanaged expansion of human populations and human activities. And brother David I'm sure, brings a somewhat more orthodox religious perspective to this. We've known each other for years I know that…

…primatologist and a great religious thinker, philosopher, jesuit, theologian and so forth and so on and I don't know how much brother David knows about Teilhard De Chardin a lot I'm hoping he was very important in my own growth. Well maybe you could say…

…martial artist and aficionado of all this stuff. Let's see I'll decide so people don't have that terrible burden. My name is David Brownlow and I'm an engineer and a filmmaker and I've listened to all of the individual landscapes. I'd love to talk about…

…have been in the past. This is the only public event that I'm doing in these ten days and I'm very grateful to David for inviting me. This is a wonderful facility and bringing you plants and books and information. It's great to see that freak community…

…walls. Those are reflections of the barbell, but they're distorted reflections, and all reflections are distorted. So David Koresh's Version of things, Charles Manson's Version, buddha's version, Hitler's Version, Christ's Version everybody's version is slightly…

…and I'm having these things and I'm not eating anything it just comes on and it's very scary for me. And from the time and David I really feel for what you're saying because I'm scared to death because since I was like 15 and you know in high school…

…to work with me and he took me under his wing for 6 weeks and worked with me every other day and what I had then David was I had permission to go through it and he was going to be there with me and then dick died you know Monday, Wednesday, Friday…

…say, oh you know it's. I don't know maybe I read too much h p Lovecraft as a kid and it contaminated my categories. David said that is sort of away from psychedelics but on this vein of discovering something that maybe we, maybe I keep myself from…

…an ideal medium for growing any kind of mushroom but Psilocybe carolessens seems to have adapted to it as its preferred ecosystem. David Aurora, a mushroom expert from Santa Cruz he was a visiting teacher here last winter I think, and these people all…

…was this other theory? Well it's associated with the name of David Bohm. And what was this unswallowable counterintuitive assumption built into David Bohm's Theory of the quantum? It was that there was some kind of non local super space in which the entire…

…surely lost. Stand still, the forest knows where you are you must let it find you. Wonderful, thank you. Well thank you to David Wagner and the salish elders from the northwest. Well you give it life. But you know, the Zen Patriarchs used to say that…

…did that very well. The Zen Patriarchs Terrence Terrence can I get you to stay there just for a SEC where you were with David? They want us back right here. Don't talk and just give me 10 seconds or 20 seconds. Okay don't talk, it's an easy…

…it might be time to, you know I miss a kind of critical evaluation where everyone's very polite, you know and saying well as brother David would dare stand up and say: my god you're not going to sing a song at the end are you right? Right or not?…

…new book where he challenges us to consider the mystical element which he describes as more or less in the language of David Bohm's Implicit order, that all time and all space somehow exists as an interconnected ball of intelligence which is, let's just…

…out what worked for you and then really put the pedal to the metal. You know. Yeah I recently came across David Henson's work on orbitally rearranged monatomic elements and he found that these monatomic heavy metals conduct, act as superconductors. They…

…beyond rational apprehension. Matter is not lacking in magic matter is magic. I mean so when you hear these people like David Dennett and all these talk show materialists running around these people haven't gotten the news that's coming out of quantum…

…ready to go again it was great. Would that be enlightening to have somebody see himself afterwards after the journey? It might be David I shouldn't tell you his last name without his permission but a yogin that I know made a film of himself smoking DMT…

…a view. I think they should do Gender Talk. I mean, they've got much better clips than we do. Really? Thanks, guys. Mark and David. Mark and David are those guys. Yes. All right. That was a nice little intro. Anyway, this is Gender Talk. Our website is…

…should do Gender Talk. I mean, they've got much better clips than we do. Really? Thanks, guys. Mark and David. Mark and David are those guys. Yes. All right. That was a nice little intro. Anyway, this is Gender Talk. Our website is www.gendertalk.com. I…

…assumptions of scientific materialism that I think something like that on the short term, here and now, really gives us pause. Brother David, in this process of breaking through to the worldly flesh, where do you see the function of the poets? Well, you…

…to take part in these experiments, please talk to David Brown afterwards who's working with me on this project here in Santa Cruz and David is here. So if you'd stay around here David so those who can't see you will know where to find you at least and…

…to David Brown afterwards who's working with me on this project here in Santa Cruz and David is here. So if you'd stay around here David so those who can't see you will know where to find you at least and afterwards that would be a big help. Can you…

…going on if you're a fan of the history of science and ideas, is that in the last six months there's been a very prominent David Bohm's work. David Bohm is now dead, and I believe he taught here or he visited here many times. In any case his ideas…

…Heisenberg and all those untouchable and godlike figures to admit that they were actually wrong about something fundamental and that David Bohm's Quantum physics, which gives the same numerical results as theirs, is in fact a more elegant formulation. And…

…are actually occurring in theology right now. Well there's a tradition of old testament scholarship that reinterprets stories about David and melchizedek or Jericho I mean all these. Oh well they're all being reinterpreted all the time. Melchizedek is,…

…think they're very different pictures of the same process. I mean in the afternoon session there was the image of the star of David as the interpenetration of the two triangles. I think it's the notion of as above so below. You don't understand it unless…

…in classical physics for example. So I'm extremely suspicious of the application of quantum mechanical concepts there. But you see now David Bohm's model of quantum theory which you referred to earlier the one that involves, you know if you can get rid…

…the men stand on chairs and turn around so that the women can see, oh wonderful, I think experiencing it really makes a difference. David do you want to add something? Oh okay, no you have to get up watch your head. You know playing with words teaches…

…where it just is an expression, seems to speak of that kind of pain of living in denial. Thank you for sharing that. David wants, I think, to address this issue of dualism. He talked to me earlier. Oh good, that's a very logistical perspective. I think…

…that can maybe ride a longer distance. I'm not sure. What's your story? Well my story I'd like to share with my partner, with David. Do you want to go first, David or should I? Okay I'll go first, okay I started off my partnership with David only 11…

…I'm not sure. What's your story? Well my story I'd like to share with my partner, with David. Do you want to go first, David or should I? Okay I'll go first, okay I started off my partnership with David only 11 years ago and it was a miracle…

…my partner, with David. Do you want to go first, David or should I? Okay I'll go first, okay I started off my partnership with David only 11 years ago and it was a miracle is what it was. I had a prior marriage and that was really a terrific…

…I have been in the past. This is the only public event that I'm doing in these ten days and I'm very grateful to David and Petra for inviting me. This is a wonderful facility and bringing you plants and books and information it's great to see that…

…supposed great bridge between science and mysticism. Well it turns out it's just malarkey there is no uncertainty principle. David Bohm's Formulation of quantum physics gives perfect knowledge of velocity and position without ambiguity. It calls forth the…

…two threes formed a six and the two creative trinities interlaced. And then what occurred to us was that the star of David is just such a diagram: two interpenetrating triangles or the hexagram, well any six fold structure anyway this takes us into…

…this worked and if you've never gone to that page why take a look at it and they've been very instrumental in outing David Hales, the payments he received from the special prosecutor's office and all this witness buying and all this crap that went on…

…crystallize out. And then they did. And there was, at that moment, a whole new set of phenomena in nature emerged, in David Bohm's phrase, emergent phenomena. There had been only a universe of pure electrons. Suddenly there was a universe of hydrogen and…

…that's the URL the Universal Resource locator, which I wish I had one now. Okay, in case I forget, remind me at the break and David will be here to help that we'll go over the paper requirements for the folks who are going to do a paper for this…

…a little past time to take a break. Let's take a break those of you who are doing a paper, why don't you gather up here and David and I will lay out the guidelines the REST of you why don't you give us just a little bit of space so we can work…

…you give us just a little bit of space so we can work this academic thing out? Let's see I have some guidelines and David has. Does civilization lose a piece of knowledge that central to its functioning? Well the only scenario I can come up with is an…

…we're at the end of the road here. I feel a little guilty that there wasn't more hard botany, but I feel confident that David and Ralph and the other people participating in this course will get this to you. There's a great deal to be learned. There's…

…take your chosen field by storm. If any of you need to reach me come through a friend or through the ciis front office. David usually knows where I am. If you think I can help you by introducing you to someone or pointing you toward a reference or…

…presenting a talk on spirituality and nature in midlife and following a spiritual path in midlife and then after him we have brother David Standovast, who is a benedictine monk, and I have to read just a little bit about what he'll he'll do his his…

…are saying that it isn't this mysterious property of nature it's a mysterious property of Swedish Quantum physicists and that David Bohm's Formulation of the quanta is a much more elegant formulation and eliminates the uncertainty domain at the cost of…

…live through an age of enormous reappraisal. All right, thank you. Yeah you want to say something. Actually, I was sitting where David was sitting the other day and we talked a little bit afterwards. David Gelman, no we haven't talked well he brought up…

…and this is what we'll attempt to discuss and delineate this weekend. One question: I believe there's another ice age coming right now. David, I wonder what you think it was like before the last ice age. Well, there have been five or six ice ages in…

…have oysters packed in ice, I have Belgian Chocolate, I have and he had gotten a job dish washing that morning at the King David Hotel and had just quit in disgust halfway through the day, and had raided this super fancy four star hotel and just had a…