…episodes. Right now I take us to be somewhere in the late 800s. You know Rome has fallen and the hard claw of the Christian Church is just about to close itself. You know if you're of our persuasion your best bet now is to probably move to tartary…

…to it's interesting. It's fascinating how if you really go to bedrock with these things there's some really interesting Christian Theology that relates to all this. You know the existential theology of soren Kierkegaard. Kierkegaard said the defining…

…human population all the time were mutants of certain types that had no evolutionary advantage as long as bourgeois society and judeo Christian Ethics were in place but when that begins to Shake and shimmer then these mutant types will emerge to the fore.…

…in the control of those who recite that mythology, whether they be shamans or priests. This holding back of reality is what Christian Theologians call the fall, our strange alienation from nature that causes us to crowd into cities and mint money and put…

…in our world at Diophantus proceeded through his disciple Hypatia to develop a calculus by AD 370, so that the millennium of Christian Stasis that occurred in our world did not occur in that world. And as time passed and engineering advances occurred by…

…journeys into the psychedelic space. They were able to discover our sleeping unconscious with its repository of the legacy of the Christian Centuries under the reign of this demagogic ideology. And they conceived of the notion of saving us. And it has to…

…why didn't we think of that? Well I mean I'm not sure I've thought of that before you know it's the claim of Christian Theologians that Christ comes in the center of history. They speak this same language. Before Christ no souls were entering heaven. He…

…of the visions of our visionaries, all of this will build to a crazy concatenatious climax. It can't be any other way because Christian Civilization has wired us up for these things at the end of every thousand year period, I mean in the year 1000,…

…mythology who never has sex with a female. Most other creation myths involve sexual or to have consorts. Yahweh, who is the Christian and basically the Islamic God too, is the only one who never has contact with a female either human or divine. Pretty…

…with your ancestors, and they acknowledge their own ancestors who had to do these great migrations to get away from Muslim and Christian soldier armies and so forth, and credit another people, the pygmy people who lived even further in the forest. So the…

…a historical perspective this is not a you know it's a it's a potential earthquake in the historical continuum and and Christian Fundamentalism has completely distorted the social agenda in this country, not only on the issue of women's rights and that sort…

…today September the 29th is the festival of st Michael and all angels liturgies and masses for the angels, said all throughout the Christian world, a day of invocation and hymns to the angels. It's a day on which you become particularly aware and open to…

…who go at Christmas and Easter you never normally go at all. And so there are some people whose connection with the Christian Faith is confined to these major seasonal festivals. It therefore still has a kind of pulse. The basic ritual pulse of the…

…for every plant. I think we could probably be best since it would become a foundational thing. You see the Christian Sacrament of holy communion taken weekly by most people, involves the sanctification of wine. The ritual element, the central sacrificial…

…and the corn and all those kinds of things are a central part of these mysteries. Ancient mysteries come in the Christian form. There's wine on the Saturday, beginning maybe at Friday Sundown Cannabis on Sunday, I think Cannabis on Friday Actually, because…

…whole chemical revolt was about. It was about a suppressed, marginal minority of deeply pietistic original thinkers but heterodox non Christian, keeping together a tradition that I think has been reborn or rediscovered in our own time and it's the tradition…

…group of people whose entire institutional structure the Protestants is designed to question and reject them and in almost every issue of Christian Doctrine there's a sect that affirms and another that disputes it. So there's a wide range of as there is in…

…less at the foundation of every religion. Yes, although most religions have rather skirted the whole question of memory, in Christian Theology the traditional forms of it are fairly non evolutionary. There's a strong sense of memory there's a strong prejudice…

…thing is a real problem, you see. And also, if the changeless divine mind is supposed to be omniscient and if as in Christian Theology, it was an inherent freedom in the creation, then what's going to happen is in a sense open before it's actually…

…to exist, I'm suggesting that it is liberated into another dimension. Yes, I mean yours is the Hindu model and Terence's is the Christian. No it's not. I'm talking about an existence of the world soul which is beyond space and time. No the idea is that…

…would be a reincarnation of the previous cosmic soul. But I was just contrasting it with Terence's model, which is the Christian Eschatological model, which takes the you'd have the death of the universe. The universe would reach a culmination in the words…

…cosmos, a kind of dissolution of the cosmos. Yes in its most extreme version. Yes well that's the most extreme version of judeo Christian Eschatological thought. You know it's the it's the devil you say. Well I am actually it is the most extreme and out…

…is a Kota Group or something that we have to reprogram ourselves out of this childhood conditioning in the Hindu, the judeo Christian and the scientist and whereas our work, thought talk and relationship are very much inspired by our own travels to the…

…think that the I myself think that the way I've seen my own way forward at any rate is reconnecting with the Christian Tradition and re linking through the traditional festivals and sacred places and pilgrimage, to a traditional sense of location in the…

…power power points which were recognized in every land by every culture, by American Indians in America, by Europeans, both pre Christian and Christian Within Europe, and these were by Australian Aborigines, by Africans, by Jews in the holy land, the sacred…

…points which were recognized in every land by every culture, by American Indians in America, by Europeans, both pre Christian and Christian Within Europe, and these were by Australian Aborigines, by Africans, by Jews in the holy land, the sacred places of…

…marked the changing seasons of the year the solstices, the equinoxes, the festivals associated with them, which we in the Christian world have inherited from their pagan roots through festivals like Christmas and Easter. And of course, the Jewish Religion is…

…as in images of our lady of Guadalupe, as wearing a blue robe, a sky blue robe studded with stars. So this is also a Christian Image of the goddess and the image of Mary as mother of god and you see, it has this idea of this primordial womb of…

…or the sky from which all things come. The angels were believed to be celestial hierarchies of beings in Christian, Jewish and Islamic Belief there are nine hierarchies of angels, perhaps corresponding to superclusters of galaxies, galaxies, solar systems…

…Terence, this special term of spirituality which also probably comes from plants, but in Rupert's case this spirituality is expressed in a Christian form. So in that Terence is a pagan or he is simply not a Christian, there is in Rupert's Integrity a kind…

…Rupert's case this spirituality is expressed in a Christian form. So in that Terence is a pagan or he is simply not a Christian, there is in Rupert's Integrity a kind of living proof, perhaps a constant reminder of the fact that the ordinary and familiar…

…that's the clue to entering this atemporal or 4d perceptual sphere. I had a clue mentioned at the beginning: in the Christian Tradition, the principle symbol of the hairy spirit which is that which gives inspired prophecy, shamanic type gifts of healing,…

…say. What do you think? Well, I think I mean I agree with you this is a cultural pattern. The judeo Christian Tradition takes further tendencies already there in early civilizations, a sense of movement towards some end, apocalyptic prophecy. The last book…

…talking, as Terence sometimes seems to be, about something just happening on earth? And I have the same problem with Christian Apocalyptic speculation. Teilhard De Chardin for example he talks of the consciousness here is he talking about the transformation…

…the way in which the models are taken to be the reality by people. It's a recurrent danger of models and in the judeo Christian Tradition it's called idometry. It's that the model of reality, the image of the god is taken to be the god itself. And I…

…mythology, and both masculine and feminine creative principles come in trinities quite frequently the triple goddess, but then in the Christian world the male trinity. And Ralph was saying, well, maybe there would be, since there seems to be this possibility…

…This dualistic worldview, so dominant in western culture today, has its roots in Greek Orthographic philosophy and in the judeo Christian Belief: makes earth your servant. The experience of the world as matter, as an object to which man stands opposed,…

…genus loci, a god on the grecian model not the god who hung the stars in heaven but a local god, a pre Christian Bacchanalian nature power that is very alien and yet resonates with our expectations of what that experience would be like. Interesting that…

…must understand what we are. We cannot travel much further with the definitions of man that we inherit from the judeo Christian Tradition. We need to truly explore the problem of consciousness, because as man gains power he is becoming the defining fact…

…and transformed and fully wired from the depths to the heights. Are we just talking about another version of the Christian Death, resurrection, ascension into heaven, except that it is coming into history? What is happening is that the Paradise promised…

…of the Fama and the confessio never contacted anybody and their claim was basically fraudulent. It was that the tomb of Christian Rosencrantz, who had lived in the 14th century again it's like this harking back to Roger Bacon, but instead harking back…

…this harking back to Roger Bacon, but instead harking back to a mythical person aged two centuries previously that the tomb of Christian Rosencrantz a great knight who had gone on the last crusade, had been discovered and that inside there were all these…

…town. So we salute them. And Eric Ali did the wonderful poster he's done them for these events for years. He's a beautiful artist. Christian Duffy and Jim Essex are here to see that you find your seat and stay in it, and we thank them for that. And…

…down. And there's a wonderful speech in moby dick where starbuck, the first mate you remember wimpy little starbuck, he stood for Christian right reason. And he says to captain Ahab: to seek revenge on a dumb brute seems blasphemy. And Ahab says blasphemy.…

…so he does. Now, different people have different interpretations of what's going on here, and Thomas is always called then in Christian Exegesis Thomas the doubter. My interpretation of what's going on here is that because Thomas doubted, he alone of all…

…sexed animals such as primates, arousal means sexual arousal and erection in the male. So then, without the overwhelming. Influence of Christian Ethics to guide their behaviors I'm sure these organisms simply flopped in a heap and sorted it all out later.…

…of all, there's a built in goose in the calendar because we're approaching a millennial year and that always exacerbates this Christian thing outrageously because of the promise made: amen, amen I say to you this generation shall not pass away. Before I…

…societal and civilizing assumptions that we have made. After all marxism is nothing more than the millenarian retread of Christian Millenarianism, and so is modern science yet another secular retread of Christian Millenarianism. So our culture is in trouble,…

…is nothing more than the millenarian retread of Christian Millenarianism, and so is modern science yet another secular retread of Christian Millenarianism. So our culture is in trouble, not trouble. We are at a terminal crisis, a bifurcation that can only…

…Nature has been playing this game for three billion years on this planet. We have been playing the game we the apostles of Christian Scientism, for about 2 000 years. Nature has an economy, an elegance, a style that if we could but emulate it we could…

…melvillian opera out of your life. You know, Ahab says in moby dick, he's talking to his first mate starbuck, who signifies Christian right reason, and he says he's raving about going after the whale. And he says, you know, we'll chase it over both…

…created when Picasso brings African masks to Paris and begins painting them. Freud announces that we are not just Christian ladies and gentlemen, but right beneath the surface the incest drive, cannibalistic drives, extremely violent primitive impulses are…

…We have no theory for out of the class of the... I mean, I suppose somebody who was a fundamentalist or some kind of Christian might say, well, God's will... Out of the class of what is possible, what comes to be is God's will. Well, that would be…

…Let it all burn together. And that was the second burning of the Alexandrian Library. It was also burned by a Christian barbarian enthusiast called Alaric the Visigoth, the same clown who burned Eleusis behind him. I just have two brief questions. The…

…say. What do you think. Well, I think I mean I agree with you this is a cultural pattern. The judeo Christian Tradition takes further tendencies already there in early civilizations, a sense of movement towards some end. Apocalyptic prophecy. The last book…

…we talking, as Terence sometimes seems to be, about something just happening on earth? I have the same problem with Christian Apocalyptic speculation Tyler Deschardin for example he talks of the noosphere around the earth and this growing emergence of…

…basic, that's the format. I'm sure it's no news here that we are approaching the third millennium that a thousand years of Christian Civilization is percolating to its end, that we're on the brink of some kind of turning in the cosmic machinery. And…

…the dream of becoming whatever we want to become and we don't. It's very difficult because we're emerging from the umbrella of Christian Theology that told us that human nature was sinful, blemished, fallen from its true state. And yet you know we really…

…spends thousands of years meditating, on man's fate is going to get some part of the story right and I think the Christian Assumption of an approaching great change or art Bell calls it the quickening it's all around us. It's perfectly obvious that the…

…dismasted him, meaning it bit off his leg and destroyed his sexual machinery. And his first mate, who functions as Christian right reason, wimpy little starbuck, says vengeance on a dumb brute, cried starbuck, that simply smote thee from blindest instinct,…

…smoking reefer 24 hours a day and committing acts of public fornication. That hasn't happened anywhere that's a fantasy of the Christian right wing. No all that happens when you legalize drugs is that people continue to do what they've been doing, whether…

…of this stuff. What peculiarly complicates our situation is Europe is a genuinely secular society and the concept of a Christian right wing being able to dominate the political agenda it's inconceivable to them. They have Christian Fundamentalists of course…

…and the concept of a Christian right wing being able to dominate the political agenda it's inconceivable to them. They have Christian Fundamentalists of course but it's a curiosity, a testament to their tolerance, not a knife poised at the heart of…

…amount of damage. The great tension in the middle ages was between the magical schema, the magical view of human beings, and the Christian view and the Christian view is very strongly marked by the idea of man's fall, that we screwed up early on and…

…great tension in the middle ages was between the magical schema, the magical view of human beings, and the Christian view and the Christian view is very strongly marked by the idea of man's fall, that we screwed up early on and somehow then by virtue of…

…19th generation, or something like that by the fall of our first parents. And we can be redeemed this is I'm giving you the Christian rap we can be redeemed through Christ but we don't deserve it. If you are saved, it is because there is a kind of…

…dues. Human beings are co partners with deity in the project of being. This is the basis of all magic you see in a Christian Context, magic is heresy because it implies that man can command god to act, in other words that in some strange way the…

…and argued correctly that this could not possibly have been written in a period preceding moses, that in fact this was Post Christian, written no earlier than the first century a d. This is the equivalent of us finding out that you know George Washington…

…knowledge, they shattered the stellar and astrological machinery that had been built, and by they I mean the Greco Hellenistic, Christian Judaic tradition and they built a triumph of mechanism. They realized the alchemical dreams of the 15th and 16th century…

…anyway. It's the live and let live, laid back approach to doing intellectual heavy lifting. I'm a nihilist, you're a nazi, you're a Christian, You're something else. Hey, no big deal, let's just hoist a beer and party on. Well I have to defer. It's a…

…of course it becomes intractable, because no ideological vision we've ever had has been true to our human. You know the Christian Version of what human beings are the nazi version, the marxist version, the secular market oriented version these all somehow…

…a special kind of spirituality which also probably comes from plants, but in Rupert's case this spirituality is expressed in a Christian form. So unlike Terence Who's a pagan, or me certainly not a Christian, There's in Rupert's Integrity a kind of living…

…in Rupert's case this spirituality is expressed in a Christian form. So unlike Terence Who's a pagan, or me certainly not a Christian, There's in Rupert's Integrity a kind of living proof for us a constant reminder of the fact that the ordinary and…

…that's the clue to entering this atemporal or 4d perceptual sphere. Q and as John mentioned at the beginning, in the Christian Tradition the principal symbol of the holy spirit, which is that which gives inspired prophecy, shamanic type gifts of healing,…

…created when Picasso brings African masks to Paris and begins painting them. Freud announces that we are not just Christian Ladies and gentlemen. But right beneath the surface, the incest drive, cannibalistic drives, extremely violent primitive impulses are…

…and you're told: you know, you are a male child you are a citizen you are a citizen of the United States you are a Christian you are a jew you will go to college you will do this and this you never question. It's called the social contract. It…

…It's a losing battle. But at one point I think in chapter 53, the quarter deck, the first mate, starbuck, who represents Christian right reason, says they're talking about moby dick and he takes the animal rights position and he says to Ahab: he says,…

…this, it was just accepted. And to this day sugar cultivation in the third world is a kind of institutionalized slavery. Christian, you know the popes, the kings of Europe all of Christian Civilization acquiesced in the bringing back of a practice that…

…in the third world is a kind of institutionalized slavery. Christian, you know the popes, the kings of Europe all of Christian Civilization acquiesced in the bringing back of a practice that had been discredited during the fall of Rome in order to…

…advancement. I mean there's first of all all the orthodox forms of religiosity you know you can study the Torah, you can study Christian Theology, or you can be a holotropic breather or you can. You know it's endless this stuff. I am very lumpen and…

…societal and civilizing assumptions that we have made. After all marxism is nothing more than the millenarian retread of Christian Millenarianism, and so is modern science yet another secular retread of Christian Millenarianism. So our culture is in trouble,…

…is nothing more than the millenarian retread of Christian Millenarianism, and so is modern science yet another secular retread of Christian Millenarianism. So our culture is in trouble, not trouble. We are at a terminal crisis, a bifurcation that can only…

…Nature has been playing this game for three billion years on this planet. We have been playing the game we the apostles of Christian Scientism, for about 2 000 years. Nature has an economy, an elegance, a style that if we could but emulate it we could…

…produce melvillian opera out of your life. You know Ahab says in moby dick, he's talking to his first mate starbuck who signifies Christian right reason, and he says he's raving about going after the whale and he says: you know we'll chase it over both…

…humbling we have to bow our heads and abandon the dualism that we inherit out of Christianity and science and the whole judeo Christian Islamic Schtick. We have to realize that it requires a symbiotic partner. It's a hand in hand effort and if we are…

…metaphor. Now the last time this happened in the west and worked was at the time of the collapse of the Medieval Christian Eschatology at the time of the rise of urbanization and banking and secular society. The model of the Christian Universe was no…

…Christian Eschatology at the time of the rise of urbanization and banking and secular society. The model of the Christian Universe was no longer serviceable and very suddenly philosophers, politicians, social planners reached into the past for classic models,…

…you can see these things. Well Patrick in order to have an appeal to these celtic peasants, made purgatory part of the Christian Cosmogonic scheme but when you actually smoke DMT you burst into a space which seems very much to fit the description of…

…was set up. Every paradigm has a hidden or secret agenda, and what lies behind this freedom and law thing is Christian Ethics. It's very important in Christian Ethics, other than some fairly minor and screwball variants, to maintain the idea of human…

…a hidden or secret agenda, and what lies behind this freedom and law thing is Christian Ethics. It's very important in Christian Ethics, other than some fairly minor and screwball variants, to maintain the idea of human freedom, because man cannot fall and…

…you could believe that the earth was created at 10 a m on September the 6th, 2344 b c that was educated Christian Opinion in England as recently as 120 years ago. So we have made considerable intellectual progress. They calculated, they read the Bible,…

…amount of damage. The great tension in the middle ages was between the magical schema, the magical view of human beings and the Christian view and the Christian view is very strongly marked by the idea of man's fall, that we screwed up early on and…

…great tension in the middle ages was between the magical schema, the magical view of human beings and the Christian view and the Christian view is very strongly marked by the idea of man's fall, that we screwed up early on and somehow then by virtue of…

…the 19th generation or something like that by the fall of our first parents and we can be redeemed this is I'm giving you the Christian rap we can be redeemed through Christ, but we don't deserve it. It is. If you are saved, it is because there is a…

…that human beings are co partners with deity in the project of being. This is the basis of all magic you see. In a Christian Context magic is heresy because it implies that man can command god to act, in other words that in some strange way the…

…it if I hadn't seen it. You know there's a wonderful story and I have no love for Christianity Either but I'll tell a Christian story. This is what I got out of the gospels. Christ appeared several times in the upper room after the crucifixion to the…

…trends that have been going on for over a hundred years that are the actual turning belly up of Victorian, Christian, Scientific Male dominated, materialist civilization. It begins with phenomena like pataphysics in the 1880s in France and surrealism and…

…east. They say and said different things in their peregrinations through time but they claimed to be that branch of original Christian Intentionality that drew itself around John the baptist. They were a baptismal cult pre Christ, but just like 40 years…

…this malaise or this shift in psychic dominance that has been allowed to go on throughout the whole course of judeo Christian Civilization that has suppressed experiential access to the sacred. And in the absence of this experiential access to the sacred…

…minor philosophers were teaching there were pythagoreans, there were atomists and the most interesting of these were proto Christian, Neo Christian, Pseudo Christian, Crypto Christian Sects that were competing with what eventually became Christianity. Some of you…

…it was handled in Europe and America and examine the phenomenon of death, the doctrine of the soul in all its ramifications neoplatonic, Christian, Dynastic, Egyptian Etc I am sure you are all familiar with some or all of these what you get is the idea…

…that you see what you have is this hysteria of abandonment similar to the hysteria of abandonment that swept the Christian Communities when, after the crucifixion the resurrection, the coming of the millennium, was postponed century after century and the…

…in the bawiti cult and they achieve it and they achieve it and it allows them to resist cultural incursions by Christian Missionaries. Bawiti is the main cultural force that is holding back conversion to Christianity by these people, fang culture, the…

…of those who recite that mythology, whether they be shamans or priests. This holding back of reality is the strange, is what Christian Theologians call the fall, our strange alienation from nature that causes us to crowd into cities and mint money and put…

…our world at Diophantus, proceeded through his disciple Hypatia to develop a calculus by a d 370, so that the millennium of Christian Stasis that occurred in our world did not occur in that world. And as time passed and engineering advances occurred, by…

…journeys into the psychedelic space. They were able to discover our sleeping unconscious with its repository of the legacy of the Christian Centuries under the reign of this demagogic ideology, and they conceived of the notion of saving us and it has to…