…I think it comes from such a deep level of the collective unconscious that it goes down to the genetic level probably. Carl Jung said we did not invent numbers, we discovered them. Numbers are in the collective unconscious. I think that's one of the most…

…Yeah I didn't know the word allegory, I didn't know the word parable, I didn't know the word unconscious, I'd never heard of Carl Jung, but my favorite movies all opened up those kind of vistas. Every now and then I'd see a realistic film I liked but…

…it's a paradox and a very important one I think Arnold Twainby may have made I don't know whether it was twainby or Carl Jung they both influenced one another. I know cussley used the term but you know communism is a classic example of an atheistic…

…so you don't get into a rut. All right, and was it one of the talks that I heard that you said that Carl Jung met James Joyce and they didn't like each other very much because James Joyce, Jung said Jung observed was a borderland schizophrenic and…

…and not just a historical character. Either way it's quite an amazing theory and it brings back one of the classic archetypes as Carl Jung called them. One of the classic archetypes is that the empire is in disorder, the world is in chaos an evil man…

…hardly ever there. But I have an unusual propinquity for synchronicity. Synchronicities happen to me like they happen to Carl Jung. That's what Peter Carroll calls the synchronicity of synchronicity. The more you get interested in synchronicity the more…

…in the sense that they give you a cosmic theory that explains everything and gives you a place in the universe and so on. Carl Jung spotted that way back in the 40s. He wrote 52, I think it was not the 40s. He wrote a book called flying saucers…

…certain value in the oriental guru system but by and large I don't think it works very well for occidentals because, like when Carl Jung did, yeah we just do not have enough. We don't have the tradition out of which we can trust somebody that totally…

…by human expectations. Jacques Vallée is one of the major proponents of the theory that human belief systems create ufos and Carl Jung had a variation on that theory in his book on flying saucers. So mebon decided to see if human expectations would…