…I would say on personal experience seems very much the same place and there could be the resonance between this is what Rupert Sheldrake is talking about under the name morphic resonance that the one way of reality, the thing the cosmos itself, and the…

…And it also a more interesting and kind of more philosophical case can be made if you accept the theory of Rupert Sheldrake of morphogenetic fields, because you have to realize then that the morphogenetic field of a drug like psilocybin, which has been…

…going. And for today's podcast we're going to hear the recording of a private conversation Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake had back in September of 1991. Their topic that day was psychedelics and the computer revolution. And we begin…

…than any more of me approximating what was said, why don't we just listen to it now and see what Ralph Abraham, Rupert Sheldrake and Terrence McKenna had to say about the world's soul way back in 1989? So would anyone like to say anything, anything…

…assume was their final trial log. So today we're going to hear the last part of that 1998 trial log between Rupert Sheldrake, Terrence McKenna and Ralph Abraham in which they discuss their views on various aspects of what they call the evolutionary mind.…

…of 2006 that Ralph Abraham loaned me his big box of cassette tapes of the trilogues he held with Terrence McKenna and Rupert Sheldrake. The plan at the time was to get them all digitized and online in podcast format as soon as possible. Well, Bruce…

…But there's nothing difficult about the next hour or so because we are in once again for some brain candy from Ralph Abraham, Rupert Sheldrake and the one and only Terrence McKenna. And even though it's only been a few days since my last podcast, well I…

…salon. So how are you today all ready for another installment of the dialogue between Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake? As you probably know already, we're getting down to the end of the first series of conversations the three of…

…off the barred McKenna by diluting him a bit with two other popular speakers here in the salon, namely Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake, who joined with Terrence for one of their final trial logs. Actually you can find this trial log in three parts on…

…trial log, and we digitized it, and for some reason I stumbled on it today and decided to check it out right away. Rupert Sheldrake began by saying that their topic would be the evolutionary mind, and so that's why I titled this podcast the way I did.…

…on June 6th 1998, way back before Windows 98 was even released, and we'll join Ralph Abraham, Terrence McKenna and Rupert Sheldrake as they ponder over the evolution of consciousness. We're going to talk about the evolutionary mind this morning. It's a…

…the trilog tapes. I think it was last October that I last played one of these three way conversations between the biologist Rupert Sheldrake the mathematician Ralph Abraham and well what shall I call him the Bard McKenna. I guess the tape I'm going to…

…in order to pass along here in the salon. So let's listen to this old recording of a possibly private conversation between Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham and Terrence McKenna. Yeah I think it's good to have a time we shoot for like quarter to six, you…

…the psychedelic salon for a while know that I've been podcasting a series of conversations between Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake that were held at the esalen institute in the fall of 1989 and 1990 and the cassette recordings of these…

…appreciated. Well for today's program we'll be picking up where we last left the hazelwood house trilogue that was held between Rupert Sheldrake, Terrence McKenna and Ralph Abraham back in 1993 and we'll begin with Ralph's Tale that he calls fractals on my…

…mental directions without getting psychic whiplash. So it shouldn't be too hard for you to get right up to speed as Rupert Sheldrake asks a question that leads to a discussion of stellar pathology among other cosmic topics in a trilogue. With Terrence…

…been listening to this entire series comes from the seventh tape of the trilogues between Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake that were held at esalen institute in 1989 and 1990. This tape was simply titled the unconscious and sure enough…

…I'm your host here in the psychedelic salon. Today's program is the conclusion of the discussion with Kenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake on the topic of entities. Earlier today I was thinking about what Terrence said in one of the recent programs…

…I think is really impressive. And the reason I mention that is so that near the end of today's program when Rupert Sheldrake begins talking about how our current system of civilization is now devouring the Amazon Rainforest if you can pause there for…

…mentions. With that we'll get right into the second side of tape six of the trilogue with Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake that was held at esalen in 1989 or 1990. The set of ten tapes weren't really clear about which year they were…

…and live them. Well why don't we call it queen's fair? Okay, did you find it as fascinating as I did when Rupert Sheldrake was talking about the faustian story of metisopheles? And then he brought out the fact that the United States has always needed…

…b of this tape, Terrence McKenna introduces a new topic: time. So now let's join Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake at hazelwood house in England Sometime in 1993 as they conduct their first trilogue held outside of California. I would…

…way through a series of recordings that were made at esalen in 1989 and 1990, when Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake got together and conducted a series of three way conversations that they called a trialogue and the tape I'm going to…

…before so I guess this is sort of my way of goofing off by listening to Terrence McKenna. Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake hold their first public trilogue outside of California. The was actually held sometime in 1993 at hazlehurst in England and their…

…a brief soundbite from the end of side a of tape 5 in the series of trilogs with Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake that were held in the month of September in 1989 and again in 1990 at the esalen institute on the California Coast.…

…putting out three podcasts a week, two of them being part of the trilogue series with Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake and the other program each week coming from other sources. The program I started to put together for today was to…

…in a series of ten that were made in the septembers of 1989 and 1990 at esalen, where Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake got together and held a trilogue on the topic of light and vision. And we begin with Rupert Sheldrake setting out a…

…Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake got together and held a trilogue on the topic of light and vision. And we begin with Rupert Sheldrake setting out a few of his thoughts about light. I've been thinking a lot about light. One of the problems that I've…

…which is the continuation of a trial log that was recorded on June 8th 1998 in Santa Cruz California where Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham and Terrence McKenna were talking about Rupert's Hypothesis about morphogenic family fields. When we left off last week…

…I'll get into after we first hear today's program. As I said this is the final trialogue in a series that was Rupert Sheldrake and Terrence McKenna, and for those of you who aren't really big fans of Terrence's thinking, well there's an added little…

…now going to take the easy route and play the second tape from the June 8th trilog with Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake. The tape runs about an hour and 20 minutes but I'm only going to play part of it right now and then I'll…

…host here in the psychedelic salon. So are you ready for some more trilogues between Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake? When we left our three merry triloguers in the podcast before last, they just had concluded their discussion about…

…salon can still hear the words of the irreplaceable Terence McKenna, Along with the wonderful thoughts and comments by Ralph Abraham, Rupert Sheldrake and a lot of others here in the psychedelic salon. One other thing I want to point out is that while…

…in the last program I'm going to play the remaining 30 minutes of a trialogue between Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake that they held in Santa Cruz, California in June of 1998 and their topic as you'll recall is skepticism and the…

…is greatly appreciated. As promised, today I'm going to pick up on the trilogues between Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake. That took place sometime in 1992 and if I'm not mistaken they were held at esalen institute on the California…

…day. Anyway I too have felt some sort of living kinship with the sun. Enough about my strange belief system. Let's join Rupert Sheldrake as he is setting up today's trilogue by putting into context what he means when he invokes as. The topic of…

…Well just as promised today we're going to hear the continuation of the previous podcast in which Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake were discussing creativity and chaos and this is from the first series of trilogues they held along with Terrence McKenna…

…nearly as bad as listening to that hum. So let's not delay any longer. When we left them in our last program Rupert Sheldrake was just beginning to describe his understanding that mathematical attractors pulled from the front as he put it and so we'll…

…I'm going to dispense with most of my usual chatter and join you in listening to Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake talk about skepticism and the balkanization of epistemology. Well what I thought it would be interesting to discuss as part…

…in the psychedelic salon. Today's program is a continuation of the series of trilogues held between Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake at esalen in September of 1989 and again in 1990. So far the trilogers I guess that's probably not a…

…on podcasting until later this year. I know that I told you that the next Tri log between Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake would be the one that I believe to be their final Tri log, which was held in June of 1998, but due to…

…up to me and turned to the police and said: if there's one scientist in England who can explain these, it's Dr Sheldrake. The police melted away. However we had a discussion about crop circles, Terence's Conspiracy theory and so on in our first volume…

…into thinking that the millennium consciousness changeover date was the year 2000. So let's join Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake for an afternoon trilogue on the campus of esalen sometime in 1992, and we'll see how close to the mark…

…the psychedelic salon. So today I'm going to pick up where we left off last week with the trilogue between Terrence McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake and Ralph Abraham. While you won't hear Ralph on this particular program, which is side b of tape one in the…

…labeled 1989 and 1990 and I've been told that these conversations which took place between Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake actually took place first in September of 1989 and again the following year. But there wasn't any marking or other…

…just have to imagine what exotic thoughts it may hold. So let's pick up at the end of last week's podcast where Rupert Sheldrake discusses the historical origins of the Christian view of the apocalypse as a journey through time and as the source of human…

…probably as anxious as I am to hear today's show. In the last podcast you heard Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake introduce themselves and explain their concept for these trilogues. In today's program I'm going to play the first side of…

…when one of these talks really resonates with you. So let's get on with today's mind candy. Today's trilogue begins with Rupert Sheldrake speculating that if the universe is evolving, then laws of nature are evolving as well, which leads Terrence McKenna to…

…apocalypse an interesting title, don't you think? So without any further introduction let's hear what Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake have to say about the apocalypse as seen from their perspective in 1989. Well we've reached the last of…

…first of what will be a long series of podcasts of the famous trialogues held by Terrence McKenna, Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake. I first heard about these lengthy conversations when I read a little book that provided a few highlights of the first…

…of conversations. Maybe that's enough to say I should introduce my two co presenters. Most of you know them already of course. Rupert Sheldrake is the author of a new science of life and the presence of the past, books which stirred more controversy in…

…and got the British Journal nature to call his first book a candidate for burning, which suddenly turned the thought of Rupert Sheldrake into a civil liberties issue because that's pretty strong talk. Rupert's idea, which he will I'm sure unfold for you in…

…whole new way of linking systems together, thinking about solutions, thinking about the past and ourselves in the world. Right well I'm Rupert Sheldrake. As you've all gathered, I'm here with my wife jo, where is she? Oh, there she is. I just said I was…

…in Terence's Living room. The phone rang. Terence answered and he says we have to go to the bus station to pick up Rupert Sheldrake. I said who's that? It sounds vaguely familiar who's that? So in the car on the way to the bus station, Terence gave…

…by switching this switch we can cause the message to appear over here instantly. Okay, so suppose, and again, I've talked to Rupert Sheldrake a lot about this and one of the interesting questions we like to kick around is: if there is a morphogenetic…

…reading because we're seeing the first genetic polymers possible in the system. And it has this kind of overall field effect that Rupert Sheldrake will talk about in two weeks called the morphogenetic field and he and I have talked about this now how the…

…and gene exchange and life and death and procreation and symbiosis and so forth and so on. It ties in with Rupert Sheldrake, too, and I was thinking of idiot savants too, how they, with their minds and. Antenna, tapping into this incredible knowledge…

…gold, sapphires, actually grew in the earth, because for this alchemical point of view, everything was alive. And my friend Rupert Sheldrake is leading the charge to create a new birth of that perception inside science. The idea that nature, all of…

…it also, and a more interesting and kind of more philosophical case can be made if you accept the theory of Rupert Sheldrake of morphogenetic fields, because you have to realize then that the morphogenetic field of a drug like psilocybin, which has been…

…that you could know that you were going to have an ecstatic trip. Well, that is an intuitive understanding of what exactly Sheldrake was saying. The reason I've been thinking about this recently was because I was at a conference recently on psychedelics, a…

…could eventually argue you to the point where you just couldn't defend it because they seemed to be the same. But with Sheldrake, the notion of Sheldrake, that the morphogenetic field attends the compound and the absence mainly of human data. I mean, we…

…to the point where you just couldn't defend it because they seemed to be the same. But with Sheldrake, the notion of Sheldrake, that the morphogenetic field attends the compound and the absence mainly of human data. I mean, we went through a ketamine…

…hippies in the 1960s and people since have made very good use of argiarrhea as a visionary vehicle. Rupert and I. Rupert Sheldrake and I have talked a lot about this, about the morphogenetic field of a shamanic plant without a history of shamanic…

…is pretty good that this is going on. The fact that DMT is a naturally occurring neurotransmitter is very suggestive. Rupert Sheldrake has made the suggestion that dying is a unique chemical experience and he calls DMT a necrotic hallucinogen. That you…

…back on us. Maybe he didn't say it exactly like that, but that's how I'm now thinking about it. What if, like Rupert Sheldrake proposes, and natural laws are actually more like habits? Then what if archetypes are also a sort of a reflecting kind of…

…I'll hand them all around and you can get addresses off of them if you want. This is Rupert's new book. Rupert is Rupert Sheldrake. It's just begun to be distributed. He is going to make a revolution in thinking about resonance and form and it has an…

…of the permission for Earth day ecological sensitivity. Now the great philosopher of the psychedelic community to my mind, is Rupert Sheldrake, and Rupert is a botanist, a natural scientist, a man in the tradition of Darwin and WaLlACE we're trying to…

…century. Talking to Terence McKenna about a whole range of things, including changing philosophy, his newest book, actually trialogues with Rupert Sheldrake and Ralph Abraham, is called the evolutionary mind. It's a feast of all kinds of stuff on visual, math…

…my mind is spinning. Hi, Terence. I was at the conference at Esalen where you and Mister Abraham and Leonard, pardon me, Rupert Sheldrake, I think, first developed some of these ideas. Is that the book? Is this the book that's come out of that? Well,…

…or some sort. There is no openness to the power of bios, to the fact of a living cosmos. This is what Rupert Sheldrake is always trying to say. The reinvestiture of spirit into matter, the rebirth of the world soul, is a necessary concomitant to…

…1920s with embryologists like Driesch and his school. And mechanical biology has been at great pains to suppress that. That's why Rupert Sheldrake is such a breath of fresh air, because he can be seen as a person carrying the vitalist message back into…

…thought on the subject, not the least of which is my brother Dennis. And I've developed the idea in conversations with Rupert Sheldrake and Cat and Ralph Metzner and other people over the years, is basically an extension of orthodox evolutionary theory as…

…2000 years of rational scientific philosophy. And they just say, yes, that's right, but we make great, quieter planes. So I see. Rupert Sheldrake is very important in the process of building a new scientific myth because what he is saying is, on one level…

…would live in an ocean of invisible vibrational energy carrying messages over thousands of miles, they would not have believed it. Sheldrake is. Is simply saying that the part of reality that science has hitherto been unable to account for is going to…

…into the already allowed fields, which are the electromagnetic field, basically the electromagnetic spectrum. Well, this, the field which Sheldrake wants to establish is called a morphogenetic field. It means that somehow the history of this glass is attendant…

…cause and effect, but also in this other way. And I think that there's a lot of. And I think that eventually Sheldrake will be heard. As yet, he's unable to stride to the blackboard and write the equations for the morphogenetic field. But this…

…airy fairy of my metaphors on this issue is that I think I really, especially in this area, give great credit to Rupert Sheldrake and his idea of the morphogenetic field. I really think that. Let's contrast two drugs, a synthetic drug like ketamine, a…

…novelty is increasing. When the wave moves upward, toward the top of the screen, the counterflow to novelty, which Rupert Sheldrake suggested to me, I call habit. Habit is increasing, or entropy or disconnectedness or recidivist or conservative tendencies. So…

…airy fairy of my metaphors on this issue is that I think I really, especially in this area, give great credit to Rupert Sheldrake and his idea of the morphogenetic field. I really think that. Let's contrast two drugs, a synthetic drug like ketamine, a…

…I didnt. The truth is that ive now podcast over 170 talks by Terrence, including the trilogues with Ralph Abraham and Rupert Sheldrake. In addition, I've probably previewed another 50 more. So the truth is that I can't actually remember anymore whether this…

…diamonds, gold, sapphires actually grew in the earth, because for this alchemical point of view, everything was alive. And my friend Rupert Sheldrake is leading the charge to create a new birth of that perception inside science, the idea that nature, all of…

…by Terrence McKenna. I realize that we were in the middle of listening to one of the trialogues between Ralph Abraham, Rupert Sheldrake, and Terence, but I wanted to begin the year with something more focused, something that we maybe could use to help…

…I'll hand them all around and you can get addresses off of them if you want. This is Rupert's new book. Rupert is Rupert Sheldrake. It's just begun to be distributed. He is going to make a revolution in thinking about resonance and form, and it has an…

…of the permission for Earth day ecological sensitivity. Now the great philosopher of the psychedelic community to my mind is Rupert Sheldrake and Rupert is a botanist, a natural scientist, a man in the tradition of Darwin and WaLlACe we're trying to…

…of popular. If it's not true. It probably will be in time. Some people have nominated DMT for that role. My friend Rupert Sheldrake, he calls it a thanatoptogen. He says, when you really die, when you are beyond any returning, DMT floods the dying brain.…

…be what biology is doing there. Well, I know pregotion only slightly and formally, my great intellectual comrade in arms is Rupert Sheldrake. And Rupert, this is his bailiwick as well, because what he is saying in a slightly different voice is that nature…

…terms of a universal paradigm. And first, I want to talk about habit, because I've already sort of anticipated that by talking about Sheldrake and pregotion, saying, you see, if you are. And believe me, it's not easy for me to give up my platonism. I…