…I can just speak of myself that it's it's an amazing process to slowly liberate ourselves of the fear that keeps us small. And as Thomas often says, you know, we take the fear with us. You know, it'll always be a part of us, you know, but it it…

…know, in many ways it feels like, um, yeah, just a different voice shining another light on a reality that I also hear Thomas so often speak from and to, you know, for instance, when he says after a silent retreat, you know, so, you've changed shape.…

…of mattering, both in terms of significance, but also in terms of substance. And I think that in English, it works very well. And Thomas phrased it, and you phrased it very beautifully on that, that we are mattering in the moment. And I think that is a…

…do because like 10 years ago, I wrote a book about the power of collective wisdom. And I remember that at that time, Thomas was also very focused on the power of collective wisdom. Actually, as he dove through that, dived through that and into exploring,…

…opens up so much more possibility for us to have this conversation together. And it reminds me very much of this work that Thomas is doing to to communicate between the mystical inner wisdom and then the science, the findings of new science. And it's so…

…just the beauty of, like, how art can speak to people more than concepts. One of the things I love that you've probably heard Thomas say, seeing me, seeing you, seeing me, and that stating that as over there in Norway you occur as a point, but over…

…William James was saying this earlier, and people have been saying this for centuries or thousands of years, or as, you know, like Thomas, like the Buddha, it just goes back to that. And, and that, I think, is where, you know, like, going to start, you…