…poetry, through ways that don't make sense to our rational minds. And so I think the entanglement part really is, you know, Karen Barad, whose work I draw on a lot in the book, you know, talks about our intra-actions and our, you know, agential realism…

…as, you know, sea level rise, et cetera. But there's just these ideas actually actualize in a certain way. And Karen Barad, a physicist and feminist, philosopher and thinker, her agential realism is really building on Niels Bohr's interpretation of quantum…

…maybe write that in there. And Karen, there were two times people asked about a woman that you mentioned, another Karen? Karen Barad, B-A-R-A-D. She has been a very influential thinker in terms of agential realism and her book Meeting the Universe Halfway.…

…it links into the wisdom traditions. And it just, it kind of like, I think, brings us home. And both Alexander Wentz and Karen Barad in their work, that it is kind of like finding our place in the universe and meeting the universe halfway, or actually…

…really start to think it's we are entangled with all species, we are entangled with nature, we are nature. Karen Barad puts this nicely. She says that boundaries, properties, and meanings are differentially enacted through our intra activity of mattering.…