…called in at that time the people we thought were experts. We had people like Alice Huxley, and the Gerald Hurd, and Al Watts, and many wonderful Hindu and Buddhist teachers, and wonderful prophets, and experts in freedom from the beatnik 15, like William…

I did nothing. Is that right? Yeah. Well, I'll thank you, Al. I'm very serious about it. Well, what did you do for him? I gave him 30 years for it. Don't give up. I've done it 44 months and I'm still out of it. So listen, don't give up. The case…

…There's no use in bothering anymore. I don't mind being bothered. Well, you seem to be indestructible. Well, when you started with it all, Al. I mean, Al did, but you started with it all. I mean, you know. You had some kind of a purpose or vision in…

…in bothering anymore. I don't mind being bothered. Well, you seem to be indestructible. Well, when you started with it all, Al. I mean, Al did, but you started with it all. I mean, you know. You had some kind of a purpose or vision in mind then,…

…Political motives? No, no, no. I was just wondering... Economic motives? No, no, no. I was wondering because I thought that Al had some really personal interests that had reflected something in his own experience. It would cost me a couple hundred thousand…

…know. Well, here we are. Yeah. Great tribute to Oscar. How would you like to have seen it go? And I want to know how Al would have liked to have seen it go, because I think that what we're in here, one has a sort of a temperamental network or…

…grid system in which people were seeing the same thing through somewhat different lenses. Well, I think we need people like Tim and Al. They're absolutely necessary to get out, way out, too far out in fact. in order to move things around. And we need…

…fair number of people are still taking LSD, don't you think? Yeah, but they're stuck on the street. You can't call that LSD. Al, perhaps you haven't been assiduous enough in getting the good stuff. I can't believe you failed to find the good stuff. Well,…

…wampum and all the great stuff he had, and he was trading off, well, he said, What do we have here for the month now, Al?" And I would say, well, we've got this and that, and something new is coming up. How would you like a little of that? Yeah,…

…Well, you're getting the best of good with the tools I have. I know. You had some good ones. It was a primitive trade, Al. Al, what did you do with that million dollar check that you carried around? You had a check you showed me for one million…

…you're getting the best of good with the tools I have. I know. You had some good ones. It was a primitive trade, Al. Al, what did you do with that million dollar check that you carried around? You had a check you showed me for one million dollars.…

…serious? You've been through that one before, haven't you? Yeah. Climb out of your tree. Something ought to be said about the check. that Al was waving around because it's taken a long time, but it was just a few days ago that the last steps were taken…

…three weeks ago now, it was a month ago, we went to the ministry, the rock band, one of Timmy's favorite bands, and Al Jorgensen, one of his great friends, and he had the stamina somehow to go back-to-back nights, which... This really caused him a great…

…for 50 bucks, he gives you a whole hour? On the hard days it seems longer, but it's amazing how quickly it passes. And Al insists that you're naked for the entire massage? I don't think I was entirely prepared for it. I don't think he was either. So…