…shoes you'd realize I'm a hopeless schizophrenic because I look out over the crowd and I know who is Attila and who is Teresa of Avila and who is Catherine the great and who is Harold Bluetooth. I just see it. Everything is very rich if you have…

…of can you get there on the natch is I in principle grant that it must be so or we wouldn't have saint Teresa of Avila and John Chrysostom and all that but you know these people were one every hundred or two hundred years. I'm interested in every…

…and William James, Varieties of the religious experience and so forth and so on and I started reading the primary sources: Teresa of Avila, Thomas Traherne, Jakob Burma What's the singing? Hildegard Von Bingen, all of these people and I got the idea that…