…to take psychedelics and entirely miss the point because you are so extroverted and so nervous and agitated. I mean, Roland Fisher, who did all this experimental work with psilocybin, gave it to 25,000 people, published all these important papers, and he…

…and striking object. Psilocybin, it's been shown, increases visual acuity in small doses. This is very solid research done by Roland Fisher in the fifties and the sixties. Some of the last research done with a psychedelics, he showed that very small…

…parallel. Very consistently, the people who had been dosed with psilocybin scored higher on this test than the people who had not. Fisher, wishing to be facetious, said to me, you see, this is a case where we've experimentally proven that drugs give you a…

…need it. So since psilocybin provides both of these things, it just, you know, turns you into a real killing machine. And Fisher never considered the. The impacts of his findings in what this would mean in the natural environment. But I wanted to think…

…it because it's important to overcome. And that is, it's very state bounded, which is a term that the psychologist Roland Fisher coined, which means you can't remember anything about it. It's like an intense dream where you're intensely dreaming and the…

…intuitions that seep to the surface in the form of predilections one way or the other are usually pretty accurate. Roland Fisher, Who's a government scientist working for NIMH in Maryland, was here recently and he's giving people psilocybin and studying how…

…scattered through something certain to be noticed by a foraging primate. Well once ingested, even in low amounts, visual acuity increases. Roland Fisher who gave psilocybin to over 25 000 people in the early 60s before it was made illegal, invented a device…

…remember to bring back what you've learned. Oh that's a good question that's an important question that's a key question. Roland Fisher, who was a great psychedelic researcher with psilocybin and later retired to Majorca to be Robert Graves next door…

…the method. How does it feel? You simply want to limit sensory input and watch your mind. That's the technique. This guy, Roland Fisher He's now dead but he gave 25 000 people psilocybin and studied their reactions in experimental apparatus. I said to him…

…psilocybin confers on an animal or a human being is increased visual acuity. This is just something which it does, and Roland Fisher did experiments and showed this quite elegantly in the late 60s, although that research too should be duplicated. Does it…

…alarm goes off and you're deep in dream and by the time you get to the alarm you don't know from it. It's like that Roland Fisher called it state bounded, and to my mind the task the genius and the calling of the shaman is to somehow be able to…

…for the hallucinations to form. They will not form satisfyingly in any other circumstances. I knew before he died a few years ago, Roland Fisher, who gave psilocybin to 25 000 people when he was down at the? U of Maryland. And I said to him one day…

…three step process when you take psilocybin in very small amounts amounts so small that subjectively you don't notice anything. Roland Fisher did tests in the 1960s and he showed using rats and later graduate students, that small amounts of psilocybin…

…remember to bring back what you've learned? Oh that's a good question that's an important question that's a key question. Roland Fisher who was a great psychedelic researcher with psilocybin and later retired to Majorca to be Robert Graves next door…

…omnivoric diet of these primates. Now I mentioned when I talked on the radio today this very important series of experiments by Roland Fisher, who is one of the great and really he isn't given the credit he deserves one of the great researchers into…

…It's not understood why this is but it was very well documented in the late 50s and early 60s at NIMH by Roland Fisher who started his scientific career as an ophthalmologist, that psilocybin increases visual acuity and I think that the centrality of the…

…binoculars available in the environment. And this visual acuity increase induced by psilocybin was studied in the 1960s by Roland Fisher who created an apparatus where they could deform parallel lines. They gave graduate students small doses of psilocybin and…

…insects, eating roots, eating whatever it finds and including in that a small amount of randomly contacted psilocybin mushrooms. Roland Fisher, a psychologist, physiologist at the national institute of health in the early 60s, gave psilocybin to thousands and…

…And there was nothing miraculous about it. Psilocybin, which is the psychoactive amine that occurs in these mushrooms, was studied by Roland Fisher in the 1950s, and the first thing he learned was that small doses of psilocybin doses so small as to be…

…situation in response to the same set of environmental pressures that were forcing the primates out of the trees. Roland Fisher did work showing that visual acuity is increased if small amounts of psilocybin are given to graduate students, psilocybin…

…omnivoric diet of these primates. Now I mentioned when I talked on the radio today this very important series of experiments by Roland Fisher, who was one of the great and really he isn't given the credit he deserves one of the great researchers into…

…in a grassland environment at a distance is up to 20 more sensitive than in an unstoned human being. The guy who discovered this Roland Fisher, said to me when I discussed it with him: he said so you see, here is a case where taking a drug definitely…

…tests and they do better if they are slightly intoxicated than if they are not. The guy who proved this, the viennese psychologist Roland Fisher when he described these experiments to me, he said and so you see my young friend here we have a case where…

…the expansion of consciousness that it would have been sufficient to prime the pump to develop consciousness. I talked to Roland Fisher years ago about some of these ideas. He did experiments very interesting experiments at NIMH in which they had two…

…the night mother. So looking for support for this idea and I mentioned this earlier I discovered that in the 1960s Roland Fisher at the University of Maryland had given psilocybin to graduate students and then given them standard visual acuity tests, and…

…it because it's important to overcome, and that is, it's very state bounded which is the term that the psychologist Roland Fisher coined which means you can't remember anything about it. It's like an intense dream where you're intensely dreaming and the…

…but at doses so low that they do not register as a psychedelic experience. Psilocybin imparts measurable improvement in visual acuity. Roland Fisher did this work in the late 50s and early 60s and they built an experimental device where a person who could…

…the availability of protein these foraging primates are testing every object in the environment for its food value. So uh Roland Fisher who was a researcher into the effect of psychedelic drugs and the structure of consciousness showed that small doses of…

…of your eyelids with the expectation that you're going to see something, that's all and it's weird. I mean I talked once with Roland Fisher, who was this viennese scientist who had given psilocybin to 2 500 graduate students and so forth and so on and I…

…Well, first of all in very low doses, psilocybin increases visual acuity. If you want to go back into the literature, Roland Fisher in the middle 60s took graduate students and gave them small amounts of psilocybin or placebo and he built an apparatus…

…It took me years to be able to articulate this because I thought everybody did this but apparently not. I once talked to Roland Fisher the guy I mentioned this morning. He'd given psilocybin to 2 500 grad students. He'd taken it 20 times himself and I…

…the feeling that we're always aiming for the center of this mandala. Somebody else might have a different model of consciousness. Roland Fisher had a toroidal model and various states of arousal, but to my mind if you raise the dose of any psychedelic…

…using individuals because, like many indules, if there's a small amount of psilocybin in the diet, visual acuity is measurably increased, and Roland Fisher did work on this in the early 60s. Well you can see that if an animal that is living by predation…

…cattle in this grassland environment. Now the astonishing thing about psilocybin in small doses and this was secured by research done by Roland Fisher in the late 50s early 60s is that in very small doses doses so small that you don't feel buzzed or…

…It is an increase in visual acuity. You actually obtain slightly better eyesight. This has been documented in experiments that Roland Fisher did. It's statistically demonstrable. In fact fisher said to me about this data. He said: so you see, here's an…

…so that you enter into these places, not to knock uh him personally, because he's a very nice man but as an example, uh Roland Fisher, whose work you may know. I talked to him and he has given psilocybin he says to about 15 000 people at NIMH and…

…them. This is something I haven't even talked about in this interview. But these things are very state bounded a term which Roland Fisher in fact coined. That simply means that they're very hard to retain and remember what exactly happened at the peak of…