…it goes with the issue of rituals I mean these things are all interconnected. Yes your remarks make me think of something Omar Stewart said who was a botanist and anthropologist, and I don't know how serious he was but he felt that the great transition…

…if you're interested in this, a major landmark in ethnobotanical publishing in the last two months was the publication of Omar Stewart, Who's an old botanist very well thought of guy Omar Stewart's life work, the peyote religion, has just been published…

…University of Oklahoma press beautiful book. I urge you to take a look at it. What it's called the peyote religion by Omar Stewart, Yeah, I'm interested in. I remember the experience of having this very deep insight and then coming back into my life and…