…virtual reality is exciting because it's a technology for showing each other our dreams. It's interesting. I'm not anti technological. Merciliade, the great commentator on shamanism, defined it as the archaic techniques of ecstasy. And of course iliad wrote in…

…if it weren't for our tools. Language is a tool. The cutting edge is a tool. Social organization is a tool. Merciliade wrote a book called shamanism, the archaic techniques of ecstasy. Shamanism is essentially a technology. I think we should simply take…