…the name of their leader crespus. And that's the reference. And you know it's puzzling because take a figure as minor as mani. Mani is the founder of manicheanism he was born in Seleucia, Ctesiphon in the 700s. Well god, we have mani's laundry bills. I…

…almost have a geometric theory of messiahhood and just say, if you were in the big league, the buddha, Christ Muhammad, Mani, Mahavira League then you just caught a very bright reflection from the distant spinning eschaton and then you embodied it and…

…almost have a geometric theory of messiahhood and just say, if you were in the big league, the buddha, Christ Mohammed, Mani, Mahavira League then you just caught a very bright reflection from the distant spinning eschaton, and then you embodied it and…

…is a form of gnosticism. Manicheanism is a dualistic Persian Religion that had great sway in Persia through this slightly later phase. Mani was its prophet, mani was a mandaean his father was a priest in the mandaean faith. Well why talk about this so…