…guess maybe intellectuals turned to marxism or that generation of people sort of died out. Madame Blavatsky became very interested in Krishnamurti. He resisted you know these groups wanted to proclaim him the world messiah and he basically told them to get…

…them to get lives and get real and that he was not the world messiah and that he didn't want that laid upon him. And Krishnamurti is an interesting figure because he resisted all of these impulses and yet was at the very center of it. And in the 20s…

…it was India. Well then in the early 50s you get people like Daryl Suzuki writing about Zen and Alan Watts and Krishnamurti was still alive at that time and psychedelics created an interest in these things. Psychedelics were never embraced by the new age,…