…McKenna. Thank you very much. Surely not controversial hate to have a conference haunted by controversy. Well it's wonderful to be here. Kenny has been plotting and scheming with me to get me to a seeds of change conference and I think we missed the…

…in a series of several hundred pound fragments all around this lupuna tree, and it was approached being supernatural. I mean I looked at Kenny and said: did you see what I saw? And so this seemed to me an instance of a plant being able to protect…

…you could describe as a telepathic union with a person in such a two or three person psychedelic trip. I remember one with Kenny and Alice where the three souls merged and a telepathic bond was connected which was never broken. It didn't end with the…