…Herderegh is being brought here and shaken by the lapels and said, you know, for God's sake man, do you have answers? We have answered. Karen, I would like to hear you make a case for in what way the psychedelics could help us, in what way are they a…

…explained it it's quite uh Terence. What is your website? Uh it's at levity it's uh triple w dot levity dot com and then just click on Karen McKenna there levity is l e v I t y so it's uh it's w w dot levity dot com? Uh will get a link up…

…sorry but it was you or this poor soul now he can bake and consider which was worse. Well my name is Karen and I'm interested more in the herbal lore and herbal outlets or the purpose of medical use. I'm interested in Chinese Pharmacology…

…in Asia in neolithic times but somehow died out in the pre classical period and had to be reintroduced from the new world. Karen, do you want to comment about Amanita muscaria? Yes good, I'm glad you reminded me. Amanita muscaria is perhaps the old world…

…that note, the improper Bostonian run is 100 best. And for S&M supplies, the first one they list is Home Depot. Thank you, Karen, for bringing that to my attention. For S&M supplies. Well, you know, the bolts and the stuff you need for the rafters and…

…Hal. All right. Do we have a special message? You know what? Let's save the special message for after the announcements so that Karen can work on getting our next guest on the phone while we do that. All right. That sounds good. All right. Are we…

…McKenna. Not hearing anything. Terrence. Terrence is probably sitting there going, I'm here, I'm here. The phone just went out, says Karen. I heard that all the way back here. The phone is funky. We apologize to everybody, including Terrence. We'll get…

…our program for tonight, I think. Any other comments, anybody? Nope. Good. I think we're good. I'm commentless. You're commentless, Karen? Wow, Karen. All right. Well, let's see. Our website, once again, www.gendertalk.com. Pass a visit, say hi. And IFGE…

…tonight, I think. Any other comments, anybody? Nope. Good. I think we're good. I'm commentless. You're commentless, Karen? Wow, Karen. All right. Well, let's see. Our website, once again, www.gendertalk.com. Pass a visit, say hi. And IFGE International…

…all clear and so it's a way of modeling history and if I could contort it into a video game. My life would be much easier. Karen at this moment of levity, what I'd like to suggest is that we have a very short break. I was about to suggest that Joan…

…our work and we make it move in this direction because obviously the choice is up to us, it's not going to happen by chance. Karen do you want to say something on this? Well I think you're right. The clan motif is what is gaining ground. I think the…

…be public humiliating meow. How many times in my life will this happen before I finally shuffle off the stage? It's a 2c b, Karen. Oh it's a 2c b okay good. Well first of all to your question about ayahuasca, which requires some explanation for some of…

…is Neil and I came at first because I had seen you speak on your tour for truth hallucinations and that was like hearing Karen speak for the first time was like tripping in itself and I've never recovered and I just wanted to continue. And then and…

…serious on the agenda at some astrophysics conference. Yeah time is the great misunderstood or ununderstood quantity in our lives for sure, Karen. Yep you referred to the those orthodox guys and their big bang theory right so you reject the big bang theory…

…was like I was looking at everything that was still in the room, but it's almost as though it were sort of like what Karen described a zany cartoon running at full speed and backwards. It was as though the whole surface of the topography as rob said,…

…backward to the shamanic Paradise that existed before history. If you don't believe what I'm saying, do the rational thing, check it out. Thank you very much. Thank you, thank you, Karen. Tape's up, tape's up. Tape's not available. Tape's not available.

…you going to hand the microphone? Do people come up? Stand up. Stand up and speak loudly in the middle, in the back, yes. Yes, Karen, I was wondering if you could share with us your ideas on what spirit is. Well I think my notion of it is that the…

…Are you going to hand the microphone? Do people come up stand up stand up and speak loudly in the middle, in the back. Yes, yes Karen, I was wondering if you could share with us your ideas on what spirit is. Well I think it's my notion of it is the…

…for a drug strategy of some sort and so on. So this is the kind of preservation of work that we're there yes against yes Karen, a few days ago you were on kpfk with Roy and you mentioned briefly San Pedro that's what you said right you were talking…