…with this overmind, this super ego, and there's no reason to think this can't be done. I'm sure you're all familiar with Julian Jaynes Theory that until very recently, in fact until homeric times, everyone heard voices in moments of crisis. If you were in…

…they worship something Terrence. Interesting theory huh it sounds like he's sort of working off some of the theories of Julian Jaynes. He suggested in a book about the evolution of consciousness from the bicameral mind, suggested that as recently as the…

…the non egoless state was probably much more accessible to most people. I mean you all probably know this book by Julian Jaynes called the origin of consciousness and the breakdown of the bicameral mind. Julian Jaynes believes that as recently as homeric…

…you all probably know this book by Julian Jaynes called the origin of consciousness and the breakdown of the bicameral mind. Julian Jaynes believes that as recently as homeric times, that's only a thousand BC people weren't like you and me people when they…

…as homeric times, that's only a thousand BC people weren't like you and me people when they got into a tight place. This is Julian Jaynes Theory. Circa 1000 BC, Suddenly god would come on the line and say to them: you're in danger, get the hell out of…

…out of there. They would say: god is speaking to me god is telling me what to do I damn sure better do it. Jaynes believes that that function, which in homeric man was autonomous, actually became integrated as the ego, that the ego is the god of the…

…pool and so forth. And mirrors are very old, I think the sense of self some people want to argue that it's homeric. Julian Jaynes wrote a book called the origin of consciousness and the breakdown of the bicameral mind and he said that up until the time…

…forms. I'm not familiar with the person you mentioned but I know a theory which sounds like it sort of parallels. This is Julian Jaynes Theory that he puts forth in his book the origin of consciousness in the bicameral mind, and what he says there is…

…that the nearness of these tryptamine hallucinogens to normal metabolites of brain chemistry and the fragileness that people like McLuhan and Julian Jaynes have shown to be a part of the way we construct our world in other words that it's a delicate…

…bodyguard of lies, and I think that captures some of the paradoxical nature of language. Have you read the theoretical work by Julian Jaynes the origin of consciousness and the breakdown of the bicameral mind? What do you think of it? For those of you…

…layered it in to the lower levels of the personality. And so what had been god became ego. And this has happened, in Jaynes Opinion, around 1 000 BC, just at the time when the last mother religions, the last goddess, religions were dying out and on…

…piracy was taking over from minoan partnership and mother goddess worship. So yes I mean this may definitely be part of it. What makes Jaynes book so frustrating is: here is a book I think it has over 630 pages in it. It's a book on the cultural…

…impact of hallucinations and there is one reference to psychedelic drugs it's a reference to mescaline in a footnote. So Jaynes, Either through lack of information or intellectual queasiness, didn't make use of the massive body of information associated with…

…this overmind, this super ego and there is no reason to think this can't be done. I'm sure you are all familiar with Julian Jaynes Theory that until very recently, in fact until homeric times, everyone heard voices in moments of crisis. If you were in a…

…with this overmind, this super ego, and there's no reason to think this can't be done. I'm sure you're all familiar with Julian Jaynes Theory that until very recently in fact until homeric times, everyone heard voices in moments of crisis. If you were in…

…now, I believe the poster says Plato says time is the moving image of eternity because we talked about that last time. Julian Jaynes who was a psychologist at Princeton, talked about what he called the origin of consciousness in the bicameral mind and he…

…spirit or guardian angel, the important concept in all of this being that they experienced it as separate from themselves. And then Jaynes goes on to suggest that it was traders, who were people who passed from one society to another for the purpose of…

…be so basic to humanness, such as all that that I just mentioned, have all arisen since this hypothetical moment in Julian Jaynes Theory when we integrated the ego. Perhaps integrating the superego will actually make us stand taller and see more clearly…

…a mirroring of this larger psychic function, in other words the ego is our pathetic attempt to create god on our own. This was Julian Jaynes Theory. He thought, you see that up until as late as homeric times which is 800 BC, that if you got into a…

…that the nearness of these tryptamine hallucinogens to normal metabolites of brain chemistry and the fragileness that people like McLuhan and Julian Jaynes have shown to be a part of the way we construct our world in other words that it's a delicate…

…find they worship something Terrence Interesting theory huh? It sounds like he's sort of working off some of the theories of Julian Jaynes. He suggested in a book about the evolution of consciousness from the bicameral mind that as recently as the time of…

…virtual realities, I think the transformation of how we do language is part of this acceleration into singularity. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, Julian Jaynes, it didn't win him too many friends, but he wrote a big book and had this theory that this thing which…

…values in the human brain mind system and these things are very close to the surface and very easily perturbed. You know Julian Jaynes in his book about the bicameral mind felt that there had been a major shift in the construction of consciousness at the…