…doing quite what you've got and it's very. A lot of interesting work is being done and you'll hear more about this. In fact, Jonathan Otto just wrote a book called Ayahuasca Analogs in which the state of the art is spelled out. And it would be worth…

…you should buy, read and treasure every one of my books once you've done that. You know, I notice up in the bookstore Jonathan Ott's book Pharmacother. This is not a book to curl up around the fire with, but it is a compendious reference work. And…

…falls and infinite regress of repetitious pattern. This is how the world actually works. Yeah, science would have said it, Jonathan. It was incorrect because there was a difference of three or four paces between the distances between the rock. Therefore,…

…in making these, doing experiments, becoming a shaman slash alchemist and experimenting with making your own pharma huasca, get Jonathan Ott's book called ayahuasca analogues. I think they have some copies here and he describes his self experiments and…

…they had writing, I'm not sure about that. Later there were mixtec codices, for instance the codex vindabanensis mexicanus I that Jonathan showed slides of last night that shows people remember it showed the people holding mushrooms and it showed the glyph…

…of information and attacks this Wasson Theory about Amanita muscaria which I think is weaker than people suppose and long overdue. Jonathan has a counterattack. Oh no well Jonathan is a great defender of Wasson and Wasson has many defenders but I think…

…Theory about Amanita muscaria which I think is weaker than people suppose and long overdue. Jonathan has a counterattack. Oh no well Jonathan is a great defender of Wasson and Wasson has many defenders but I think that theory requires revision. See what I…

…to you. First of all it goes without saying I'd like you to read all of my books, but I won't name them. Jonathan Ott's book pharmacotheon is a very thick scholarly compendious book with a very large bibliography. It should be a standard reference book…

…It should be a standard reference book in the home of every psychedelic head around. What's his last name? Ott O t t Jonathan those of you who are interested in the Amazon Schultes book, medicinal plants of the northwest Amazon is the distillation of a…

…my books, the books of my colleagues. There's a great deal of psychedelic publishing being done now: Sasha Sheldon's book, Jonathan Nod's books, Eduardo Luna's books, my books. Inform yourself. The first stop for a serious psychedelic voyager should be the…

…on DMT oh and then let me talk then for a moment about why this is pharmacologically interesting and poses certain unsolved problems. Jonathan and I think other people have alluded to the fact that DMT is not orally active. Up to a gram has been taken…

…experiencing, you know a clarity of vision, a closed eyed hypnagogia merging into non dramatic hallucinations. And it's maddening to me. Jonathan touched on this the other day when he said that smoking DMT is twice as powerful as shooting it shooting it…

…and maybe it's because I've always been obsessed with lepidoptera and have spent many years observing them but I see now, Jonathan showed last night the statue of xochipille the butterfly there. The butterfly, even to the greeks was the symbol of psyche.…

…someone who has seen the end and I mean that on many, many levels but for some reason, and I don't know why although Jonathan said something last night I'm not sure I can quote it exactly, but he can help me Pasteur said: chance favors the informed…

…crowd, and he's always called a barbarian he was a barbarian but he was a Christian Barbarian he was not some pagan. Jonathan mentioned last night that Valentina Wasson was the first to suggest that psychedelics be given to dying people. Great idea. Who…

…I'm hell on wheels. But I didn't really have a topic tonight it was sort of general remarks. I was very interested in what Jonathan said. It reminded me of just how thoroughly alienated you can be if you come out of Berkeley because to my mind you…

…both mind and matter it would have. And the way he thought of it was as a hyperdimensional molecule. In other words, yesterday Jonathan talked about dextro and rotary rotation of molecules that you can rotate them to the right and to the left. Well, yes…

…in anything, because you don't believe in anything. And then the other part of it was and I was reminded of this by what Jonathan said the other day the chance favors the prepared mind. Did I get it right this time? Because the other thing it said was…

…some kind of weird fluke of fate that you sit and I speak. It could just as easily be that I sit and you speak. What Jonathan and rob and ken and I know we know simply because we did our homework and the reason you don't know it is because you…

…and so I would like everybody to go back to wherever you came from. You've observed me for years. You've observed Jonathan and rob you've observed professional people like Manolo and Stacy. Nobody is tapping my telephone, nobody is pawing through my…

…it is basically pure DMT and I think that's very important. I don't know what the signature is on these grasses I'm sure Jonathan does. Are there pure DMT sources there? So that makes it very exciting but in terms of its interest it can't come close.…

…doing low doses of anything is a mistake. What's that in fresh mushrooms? Fifty, fifty okay and the ayahuasca or cerium root, Jonathan I think, said two grams. Yeah we'll talk about that tonight. Okay, can you describe the pipe that's on this right here…

…it loves a photo finish but yes I mean I made reference to this that news of all of these hallucinogenic plants, Jonathan mentioned today that mescaline was characterized in the 1890s. It has only been 100 years. Mescaline was characterized in the 1890s…

…I've ever written. In addition to that, Sasha Shulgin and Ann Shulgin's book pikal has come out. You should be aware of Jonathan Ott's book pharmacotheon, which in between the covers of one book if you just want you know excellent scholarship and the…

…local plants and were able to have just blindingly transcendental experiences. Where did you read that? On the net? No in Jonathan Ott's book ayahuasca analogs. I just wanted to say that my experience with a bergamot and mushrooms was that they amplified…

…the ones where he makes no effort whatsoever to explain it to you unless you've already done your homework and what I and then Jonathan today in his lecture talked about DNA a little bit and frame slippage and all of that and it reminded me of it the…

…the ones where he makes no effort whatsoever to explain it to you unless you've already done your homework and what I and then Jonathan today in his lecture talked about DNA a little bit and frame slippage and all of that and it reminded me of it. The…

…experience trying this quid chewing method and how that relates to the way the mazatecs do it traditionally. Is that well, as Jonathan was saying, they believe that the plant they say that the plant came from outside that it's not a long tradition of…

…so compelling that you can't Shake it off by getting up. But yeah you don't really want to get up and around that much Jonathan made an experiment once real casually before he had to go to dinner at his relative's place and he was testing chewing six…

…be some serious problems. I smoked a moderate amount of it and felt an effect. It's so funny it's really hard to calibrate. Jonathan came to visit and we decided to try it in this glass pipe method. I eyeballed out what looked like an okay amount,…

…it was just oh boy here we are. I remember feeling so messed up but my awareness must have been present because I remember Jonathan had smoked it right after me. I said: am I okay? I said are you okay tremulous void, remembering that he was there too.…

…of the leaf and if they simultaneously flower and cross pollinate, then the seeds can be produced. It's been done once, as Jonathan said they had an incubator at the university in Ann Arbor and it overheated and the seedlings all died. I don't think…

…my books, the books of my colleagues. There's a great deal of psychedelic publishing being done now: Sasha Shogan's book, Jonathan Knott's books, Eduardo Luna's books, my books. Inform yourself. The first stop for a serious psychedelic voyager should be the…

…in terms of the accessibility of mushrooms. And DMT is much harder to obtain than mushrooms and I know people have explored Jonathan Ayewell's analogs and he's made a review of this which is rather hilarious. It's a very mixed set and I'm wondering if…

…an empowering attitude. With power comes the potential to abuse power because you're no longer a worm. You remember that image in Jonathan Edwards Sermon sinners in the hands of an angry god, where he says: you're like a worm suspended over an abyss, held…

…legally by mail. Oh yeah there's been a whole revolution. There are seedsmen who sell the makings of all of these things and Jonathan Ott's book ayahuasca analogues. I guess what I'm saying is: it's not as easy as it sounds right off the bat you may…

…an empowering attitude. With power comes the potential to abuse power because you're no longer a worm. You remember that image in Jonathan Edwards Sermon sinners in the hands of an angry god where he says: you're like a worm suspended over an abyss held…

As far as what I can contribute to the biological discussion. Most of the samples that Jonathan discussed this afternoon were actually collected by Cass and myself in 76 and then Dennis wrote that picture using those samples and some that he had obtained…

…many of the early ethnographers and anthropologists were motivated by, which was persistent rumors of group states of mind. As Jonathan mentioned, the first people to characterize the alkaloid named it telepathine. This was because they had the grandiose hope…

…I think the morning glory complex and the Salvia divinorum, but whatever else may have gone on you know there's a whole and Jonathan is the expert on this but there's a whole number of plants which may have been used for their psychoactive effects in…