…was thinking you know I don't think it's been published in this country but this wonderful book called a round in circles by Jim Schnabel to my mind that blows the lid off the whole crop circle thing. You and I could spend a whole evening art…

…because there was this guy. If any of you are interested in this there's a wonderful book called around in circles by Jim Schnabel that goes into all this. But there was a fellow named Terence Meaden who was a meteorologist and when the first crop…

…flew over with the video crews and then crop circles were toured on the ground and awards were made and this guy Jim Schnabel, who wrote this book I mentioned, by himself, in total darkness, in two and a half hours, made the winning entry and…