…else who was really spun into a vision of how things are supposed to be. I've debated people like Bud Hopkins and Jacques Vallée, and these people are not They have staked out pieces of the professional territory which they will defend at all cost. And…

…either means that the ministry of defense is falling down on their job or they must. Know what's going on. Well now, Jacques Vallée is the person who said: who pioneered in the study of flying saucers he said the way to understand flying saucers is:…

…days following our lives, the lives of my brother and myself underwent a tremendous and bizarre transformation. It was not until Jacques Vallée had written of the absurd element that is invariably a part of the situation in which contact with a UFO occurs…

…it I knew what it was I knew that it was the phony saucer. Psychologists call this cognitive dissonance what it is and Jacques Vallée and other people have written about this. The encounter with the UFO or with the other always has an element of self…

…earlier in your talk has in the transformation that you're describing as going through at this present time in the future. Yes, Jacques Vallée was a UFO researcher and the book that was mentioned, passport to magonia, was one of his earliest books on the…

…thing was probably a military. The funny thing about all this is that it never comes to a head. Nothing ever happens. I mean Jacques Vallée in one of his books pointed out that there must be 3 000 UFO encounters a month. This has been going on for 45…

…that's just one thread of the evidence. It's one thread of the evidence and it isn't really well supported by the evidence. Jacques Vallée, who is one of the foremost commentators on the phenomenon has been at great pains to point out that with the…

…this is the so called postmodern approach to ask the question: not what is the UFO, but what is it doing to us. Jacques Vallée pioneered this approach and the answer is fascinating. What the ufos are doing to us, to global society is they are eroding…

…organization, then we should ask why, what is it doing? And I don't want to sound like a public relations agent for Jacques Vallée, but to my mind, with the exception of Jung, Jacques is the only commentator on the phenomenon who has really pushed the…

…Jose Arguelles, who I understand has disappeared into the imperium, will descend to share his thoughts on ufos with us. Jacques Vallée will be there, ken ring, the near death experience man, Michael Grosso who wrote the ultimate question, Richard Grossinger…

…make a woman do that sort of thing? There's always, if you're a careful observer of one of these things, there's always Jacques Vallée wrote about this a residuum of absurdity that is suppressed by the witness because the witness knows that if they told…

…they are studying they're going to overthrow the monarchy. We don't know what they have in mind. That's a good point. Jacques Vallée, in his book the messengers of deception, he felt that there were forces at the highest levels of governments that actually…

…the other kinds of phenomena that you're talking about is the potential for the manipulation of belief systems. This is something Jacques Vallée talks about in his books that there's a kind of a sinister undertone that the military is bringing people in…

…to for 35 years. Yep, and I'm always the one that, and Jeremy as well, we're the guys saying: you know, why isn't Jacques Vallée? You know he's certainly a well known figure but why isn't his outlooks and his postulations on different avenues to look at…

…go and investigate it. You cannot understand it by consuming it from the media. Because all these people that you hear about, Jacques Vallée and Bud Hopkins, and John Mack, the gods of this, do you think they would stand out if they were sitting here…

…which are enormous trees and vines and that sort of thing. Anybody else? This is your last crack. I want to bring up Jacques Vallée and his water lime schedule which says 125 years. He wrote both. Which book does he talk about? Well I don't know which…

…might be a dimension of voyage. Oh voyage to Mongolia is a good one is it the new one? I haven't read the new one. Jacques Vallée I have a lot of respect for most of his work. I thought that book the messengers, of deception was so off the track…

…and leafleted the crowd with an attack on it shows you what a nut I am. For those of you who don't know Jacques Vallée had a very interesting approach to understanding flying saucers and I still think this is the best method. His argument went something…

…of the numbungi system or do you want to go with the Billy Myers crowd or what's coming out of Brazil? I think Jacques Vallée in one of his books estimated that if you don't believe ufos only appear where there are witnesses and take the number of…

…That either means that the ministry of defense is falling down on their job or they must know what's going on. Well now Jacques Vallée is the person who said, who pioneered in the study of flying saucers. He said the way to understand flying saucers is:…