…diseases? You are a progressive, aren't you? It's coming. The subject of teladildonics was raised. Teladildonics is a word that Howard Rheingold invented. And he's been taken to lunch more times for inventing this one word. Well, this is coming. I don't…

…would just be a done deal. I'm suspicious. I'm a techno fan and I use technology and I'm into it. But I was with Howard Rheingold one night actually here at esalen when we achieved a kind of apotheosis together and he said to me: he said, my god I've…

…era of grandeur and glory seeming not to be repeated. We held a virtual reality conference here a year and a half ago and Howard Rheingold had a revelation in the middle of the night down on the platform in front of the big house when he said: my god…