…little town in Colorado and I decided I had been terribly narrow and that it was all in the humanities and I began reading Henry James and all this stuff and I was into Aldous Huxley as an example of an English novelist and read ante k crome yellow…

…dissolve it you know and the linear, you know the columns and lines that's how narrative was until James Joyce and Henry James and people like that showed that narrative could be broken up. Modernism is a form of primitivism. Strangely enough, the people…

…I discovered that I had defined myself narrowly and that I was turning into a scientist. And I was reading people like Henry James and Aldous Huxley, and they were sneering at what I was becoming and talking about a mysterious realm of human thought…

…then, you know I just turned upon that with a vengeance, left off the bugs and the minerals, and it became about Henry James and Fragonard and mannerism and all of this stuff but the transition because I was hitting adolescence at that point was rocketry…