…advance it. They came to us out of ethnography and anthropology, out of the work of Wasson and Hoffman and earlier, Havelock, Ellis and Weir, Mitchell, Henri Michaud, all the people who worked with psychedelics. At first it was worked with by artists, by…

…apart and I thought many strange things and had many insights. But I had thought that it would be like the Havelock Ellis description, the ruined cities dripping with jewels, the vast jungles, the strange machinery, all that. Uh uh. Later I discovered that…

…that mescaline can't do that. It certainly can if you read these early researchers like Heinrich Kluver, S. Weir, Mitchell, Havelock Ellis. I mean these are wonderful descriptions of full on psychedelic states, but they were using pure mescaline, you know,…

…advance it. They came to us out of ethnography and anthropology, out of the work of Wasson and Hoffman and earlier, Havelock, Ellis and Weir, Mitchell, Henri Michaud, all the people who worked with psychedelics. At first it was worked with by artists, by…

…50 years, up until about 19, 45, 55 years make it very little happened. Mescaline did nothing, though. It was taken by Havelock Ellis and William James and F. Weir Mitchell. And it did not spawn a craze. It did not influence large numbers of…

…that mescaline can't do that it certainly can. If you read these early researchers like Heinrich Kluver, s weir Mitchell, Havelock Ellis I mean these are wonderful descriptions of full on psychedelic states but they were using pure mescaline you know and…

…has always been to be a reader and to get to inform myself. So I read the doors of perception and havelock Ellis and weir Mitchell all these people I mentioned this afternoon and what fascinated me was how they insisted on visions, particularly havelock…

…all these people I mentioned this afternoon and what fascinated me was how they insisted on visions, particularly havelock Ellis Descriptions of his masculine experiences where he says: you know architectural ruins dripping with globular jewels, strange statuary…