…Ultimately, the best advice I've ever come on and, you know, it's pretty sickening advice, but the goal is to survive these things, is Frank Herbert's advice in dune about fear. And he says, fear comes like a wind. It comes and the way you meet it is…

…be preparing a kind of an electronic trap door for ourselves that there is the possibility. Some people like Hans Moravic and Frank Tipley and people like that think, you know, that we are destined to essentially become our machines. And the projection of…