…brought you from the ocean 10, but we'll break up at 11. Okay, well, so it looks to me like most of us are here. Francis may have gotten waylaid. I don't know. People will drift in and out. Let's see. Is there any other business? Just clear your room…

…his intrepid work in the Sierra Mazateca and Oaxacan area and a good field man. I also found out this morning at breakfast Francis is a good field person as well and did work in the Solomon Islands among the millenarian movements there. Terence, can I…

…spontaneous. And it comes from your unconscious, where these toxic seeds of chaos live, lurking in the... I'm thinking of Francis listening to this, who's an expert on nativistic revitalization movements, which certainly the hippies can be seen that way. It's…

…years ago, right. I consider it a marvel. I mean, I wish it would be faster, too, but all this stuff is pretty amazing. Francis. Have you at any point in all of this become uneasy about the determinism? Well, I've thought about it a lot. Here's what I…

…think large million acre stuff is only happens in an already human impacted environment you know unless there are special conditions yeah Francis um what about this uh notion that uh past present and future are all uh present at once. And the only reason…