…intelligence right but others would argue that including your brother uh in a recent uh interview I think I have the quote right here Fabio Um Terrence your brother has critiqued you a bit on this point about the other, I think he said that he made a…

…Hey it's the top of the hour and I'm just going to do an id here. This is wfmu, Uppsala. College in east orange. I'm Fabio and my co host is rusty and we're talking with Terrence McKenna. Live here, he's on the west coast. Where exactly are you on…

…a few radio personalities on wfmu who really help publicize: Franco Toole and Doug Shulkin, Who's the director there. Umm let's see Fabio and Dave Mandel quite a few other people so I really thank you. It's one of the hippest little radio stations around…