…the shaman's nephew, he couldn't just be tossed out. And he would come to these ayahuasca sessions, And the shaman, Don Fidel, Don Jose, the old guys, would sing these beautiful songs in Quechua. And he would sing against them. He would sing while they…

…he would be hassling the group so finally After about the third time this came, there were about 30 of us in the shed. Don Jose, this older guy, had made the ayahuasca, and he was quite proud of it. He was showing it off, and it was god-awful strong.…