…then? By implication, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's late in the day to take all that on, but it is very interesting that David Bohm, who was thought to be a kind of a garrulous crank by straight physicists for years and years, it is now being understood…

…physicists for years and years, it is now being understood that we're on the brink of a retroactive revolution in physics. David Bohm has a better theory of the Quanta than the Copenhagen school, and his theory gives the same level of predictive refinement…

…non locality if you accepted this b theory of the quanta so it was rejected out of hand this was a theory formulated by David Bohm. Well now it comes back to haunt them because there is non locality it's been confirmed. At first it was only there were…

…its spin even though they're now separated in time and space. So the physics community and let me say about the Bohm Theory and the Bohr Heisenberg Formulation: the mathematics is identical the mathematics is identical one does not give better results than…

…doubt that the Heisenberg thing will survive. It was actually a mistake and what I want to say then about the Bohm Formulation is with Bohm's Mathematics, velocity and location can be known simultaneously to any limit of exactitude. There is no uncertainty…

…velocity and location can be known simultaneously to any limit of exactitude. There is no uncertainty in the Bohr I mean in the Bohm Formulation. I don't know how I got off on this. My proposal to you is that those guys are having the same kind…

…physicists that they should leave it alone. Well what was this other theory? Well it's associated with the name of David Bohm. And what was this unswallowable counterintuitive assumption built into David Bohm's Theory of the quantum? It was that there was…

…space and time with it that meant then that all those particles maintained this weird non local connection in this Bohm Super space. And the other counterintuitive and completely peculiar thing about this super space was that it was non relativistic.…

…now accepted by the majority of the community of physicists, show that this Bell Super space, this non local space that the Bohm Quantum theory kicks out, is real. It's actually there there is some kind of glue, there is some kind of very real…

…it gets out of the ditch it heads back in the same direction it has a vector field preference. And then you mentioned David Bohm. His idea of emergent properties seems to achieve the same end without a telos of novelty theory. He simply says: when you…

…a fan of the history of science and ideas, is that in the last six months there's been a very prominent David Bohm's work. David Bohm is now dead, and I believe he taught here or he visited here many times. In any case his ideas are well known here…

…around this problem in physics in the last 70 years than in any other. Well it turns out that if you go with David Bohm there is no uncertainty. You can know the position and the speed, the velocity with perfect certainty at the same moment of time.…

…magical property which is instantaneous. Well this seemed so outlandish that it was just thought to prove on the Face of it that Bohm was wrong because they said: well look at the consequences if you were to accept this this insane thing would be built…

…the ninth entities operating in an environment of connectivity that you get and now we switch philosophers and vocabularies what David Bohm called emergent properties and what you and I would call anybody's guess. I mean that's what an emergent property is.…

…trying to reason upward from the laws of atomic physics to organisms is not going to work, that there are what David Bohm and other people, I suppose called emergent properties at every level. There's nothing magical about that concept. I mean think of…

…theory, is now not to be preferred. The preferred understanding now is the version of quantum theory formulated by David Bohm. The difference between these two theories mathematically is precisely zero. There is no difference, but they make different…

…this uncertainty principle, which was a hard swallow, was not as hard a swallow as a piece of baggage which the Bohm Theory carried embedded in it and that piece of baggage was called non locality. The two theories produced identical mathematical…

…passed, you could almost imagine complexity crystallizing. Out of a universe that cools as it cools, new properties emerge what David Bohm called emergent properties come out of the Universal mix atomic systems form. This creates an entirely new domain of…