…call it concrescence of previously separate data fields. I mean it's a kind of an intuitive concept. Well you know that David Balm uses this phrase: emergent properties. I would say that a novelty is whenever there is an emergent property that's novel.…

…few of us ever heard until recently, because once it was decided it was not a contender it was forgotten was developed by David Balm, and it delivered the same numbers and it had no uncertainty principle in it. When you do the balm method, you find out…

…removed and ontologically independent thing we know vis a vis the human mind. Okay, so that I was a little pan to David Balm and then moving through that and going further, Ilya Prigozhin, who has also been to esalen and had an influence on many…