…equation, something. Well further research indicated then, and I think probably the key source here is that book that William Burroughs and Allen Ginsberg did in the late 60s called the yahé letters, where I can't remember what the order of it is I think…

…didn't seem to. They either had to step away from their leader role or they transmuted it into some lesser thing. So now Allen Ginsberg is poet laureate. Tim Leary is, you know, keeps the club scene in los angeles interesting, yes, but you in a sense…

…with this particular substance. But I also had been exposed to some of the literature of the beat generation, the writings of Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and some of those people and umm, within just a few months, I had integrated it into my lifestyle…

…culture is so capable of assimilating and disarming its critics through hype and fashion. I mean I was horrified to see that AD Allen Ginsberg wore khakis. Did you see that? I mean this is the guy who wrote fiery attacks on mammon and said he'd seen…