…you know, that it's. I don't. I mean, I admire them. I just don't have that kind of stamina. I take it too seriously. Alan, did you want to say something. When I was confused about what you were saying? Who are you referring to that does this? It…

…psychosis. So they were giving people LSD, thinking they would discover what were the structures and the dynamics of psychosis, and Alan Overdose, and said, it's easy to make people crazy. What's hard is to make them sane. And unless people make them…

…version of a partial bibliography or reading list for true hallucinations, in alphabetical order more or less: Burroughs, William and Ginsberg Alan the yahé letters city lights books 1960 take a stab d John, the hieroglyphic monad, translated by j w Hamilton…

…You know that it's it's I don't I mean I admire them I just don't have that kind of stamina. I take it too seriously. Alan did you want to say something when I was confused about what you were saying? Who are you referring to that does this which it…

…argument for which is that they are explanations for reality. Their persuasive force otherwise is zilch. Yeah, there was another comment here, Alan if I can just add to that, the interesting thing about fear and I think Terence made the point earlier is…

…to work out the basic principles of electromagnetism you wouldn't start with a cat brain you'd start with a magnet, as Faraday did and Alan Fiennes. Well a single cell or well I mean if these are principles that are as generous as I think they are then…